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This page focuses on  LC failures to inform users and potential users of leisure centres via relevant web pages. For example, in February 2006 I spoke of the failure to provide "what customers really appreciate, practical and timely information. " PB

Survey of LC Websites 24 August 2007

After three written complaints to Harrow Council this Bank Holiday weekend finds that the LC webpage for Harrow Leisure Centre at last has information on opening hours. But what of other centres?

 I surveyed all the LC web pages for centres they manage in the south of England that offer swimming and found 8 had no bank holiday information.

The two centres in Brent have Bank Holiday hours shown. Both are open for just six hours. Why, when my local shopping centre is open from 10am to 6pm? 

The following eight centres have no Bank Holiday times listed. Even if the hours are the same as for standard Mondays it would help the public and LC receptionists to have them listed on the web.

Downham in Lewisham http://www.leisureconnection.co.uk/centre/2/98/downham-health-and-leisure-centre.html 

Carnival in Wokingham - http://www.leisureconnection.co.uk/centre/2/68/carnival-pool.html

Dorking Sports Centre in Mole Valley- http://www.leisureconnection.co.uk/centre/2/31/dorking-sports-centre.html 

Loddon Valley Leisure Centre in Reading - http://www.leisureconnection.co.uk/centre/2/70/loddon-valley-leisure.html 

Stoke Mandeville Stadium in Aylesbury - http://www.leisureconnection.co.uk/centre/3/80/stoke-mandeville-stadium.html

Meadowlands in Tavistock - http://www.leisureconnection.co.uk/centre/2/66/meadowlands.html 

Parklands in Okehampton - http://www.leisureconnection.co.uk/centre/2/65/parklands-okehampton-leisure-centre.html 

St Ives Leisure Centre- http://www.leisureconnection.co.uk/centre/2/41/st-ives-leisure-centre.html    

Conclusion: LC is still not making it easy for customers to get basic information on the web. Even when it has learned the lesson in one area something prevents it being generalised. My hope of improvement. see below,  was in vain. PB

Survey of LC Website Shows Over Half Lacking Information on Holiday Opening -  27.12.06

Regular leisure centre users users may be able pick up a brochure about Christmas period opening hours but the holiday season and its excesses often prompt others to think of taking up exercise. How would they fare if they looked to LC's website for information on opening hours?  I began with my two local centres in Brent and one had misleading information and the other none. I then looked at all the leisure centre entries listed by LC under A to D.  http://www.leisureconnection.co.uk/locator.html#results   Seven out of the other 15 pages had no information about days or hours of opening over the holiday season and in some cases I was not able to find this information via the council website. 

Failure to use the web to identify hours of opening puts added pressure on centre and council receptionists who have to deal with calls about times. It could also be frustrating for callers who don't know when to expect the centre to be staffed. It would have been very simple to have added to the web page template used for leisure centre information a box to prompt updates on changes to normal hours due to holidays, special events, planned and unplanned maintenance. One heading that is used is "Latest Information" but at one site surveyed this had details for the summer and at another was being used to promote Christmas catering. 

It seems that Lambeth took notice of the earlier criticism as both Brixton and Clapham centres are among the few below to get an "OK". Let's hope next year's survey shows a national improvement.

Possible  explanations for the lack of information about holiday opening hours.  1. The contract with LC does not specify that LC must keep its web page for the centre up to date. 2. The contract  does specify this but LC can't be bothered with the expense and the council does not enforce. 3. General muddle and confusion   4. Too few staff left to do the work. 5. Incompetence.  6. ???

 

From LC's Website From Council  / Other Website
Vale Farm - Brent              Incorrect Information 

Christmas Holiday Junior Programme

Wed 20th - Fri 22nd December Kids Swim Free 11am - 4pm

Wed 27th - Fri 29th December 10am - 12 noon Junior Football

Junior Harpers gym sessions age 12 - 16 years throughtout (sic) the xmas holiday

Opening Times

Xmas Opening Hours
Open : 24th December - 31st December 10am - 4pm
Closed : Christimas (sic) Day & New Years Day

Swimming Pool Closure

Please note with effect from 10.0pm on 22 December 2006 to 6.30am 2 January 2007 the swimming pools will be closed for pre planned maintenance works.

The opening hours are also listed from  23.12.06 to 2.1.07, similar to the table below. 

Anyone able to tell me the difference between pre-planned and planned?

Willesden Leisure Centre - Brent    No Xmas Closures Listed

Opening Times

Programs and times for facilities are in the related documents section.

Oh no they're not! Not for the Christmas season anyway. There are nine attached documents, with photos that mean they take longer to download. But  none refer to the closure over the Christmas period.

This is the much trumpeted PFI contract but no evidence here of how this is better for users and potential users. The council does a good job making known the hours but what is the point of having a dog and you barking alone?  

Saturday 23 December 10.00am – 4.00pm
Sunday 24 December 10.00am – 4.00pm
Monday 25 December CLOSED
Tuesday 26 December 10.00am – 4.00pm
Wednesday 27 December 10.00am – 4.00pm
Thursday 28 December 10.00am – 4.00pm
Friday 29 December 10.00am – 4.00pm
Saturday 30 December 10.00am – 4.00pm
Sunday 31 December 10.00am – 4.00pm
Monday 1 January CLOSED
Tuesday 2 January 6.30am – 10.00pm Normal Opening Hours

Batchwood Golf & Tennis Centre, St Albans      No Xmas Closures Listed

Opening Times

Monday - Friday : 8am - 11 pm
Saturdays & Sundays : 8am - 8 pm

NB: Harpers Gym is open to our customers from 6am on Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays and 7am on Tuesdays and Thursdays

St Alban's District Council website was down at the time I looked.

Bisham Abbey Opening Times  No Xmas Closures Listed

Mon - Fri 7am - 10pm
Sat - Sun 8am - 7pm

No information found on Sport England website
Blackwater Leisure Centre - Maldon   Refers to Missing Document

Centre News

Normal term timetable until Sun 24th Dec - pool closes at 4pm. Closed 25th & 26th Dec & 1st Jan. Holiday programme 27th Dec - 2nd Jan - refer to summer holiday timetable. Close at 4pm on 31st. 

Summer Holiday Timetable not visible on page and no link provided.

No opening hours found on Council website but there was a link to LC page

Bletchley Leisure Centre Opening Times    OK   

6am - 10pm Monday to Friday
8am - 8pm Saturday & Sunday
Christmas & New Year
25th, 26th Dec 06 & 1st Jan 07 CLOSED
27th, 28th & 29th Dec 8am - 8pm
30th &31st Dec 10am - 6pm

 

 
Bourne Leisure Centre - South Kesteven   OK

XMAS OPENING  2006 - AMENDMENTS TO NORMAL HOURS AS FOLLOWS:

The swimming pool will close between 18 December and 1 January inclusive for essential maintenance work - Harpers and Sports Hall as normal

Creche - there will be no creche facility week commencing 25 December

Cafe - 18-20 December open lunchtimes only - then closed until 2 January 2007

Christmas Eve 8.00am-2.00pm, Christmas Day and Boxing Day closed, 27-31 December 10.00am-4.00pm, New Years Day closed

 

 
BP Meadhurst Club, Sunbury    No Xmas Closures Listed

Opening Times

Monday - Friday 06:30am - 10:30pm
Gym Shuts at 10:00pm
Saturday & Sunday 09:00am - 18:00pm

 

 
Bricket Wood Sports Centre, St Albans   No Xmas Closures Listed

Opening Times

Monday: 0730-2200
Tuesday: 0630-200
Wednesday: 0730-2200
Thursday: 0630-2200
Friday: 0730-2200
Saturday and Sunday: 0800-1900

 

St Alban's District Council website down at time I looked
Brixton Recreation Centre, Lambeth     OK

 ....will be closed until 27th December 2006 for essential maintenance works throughout the building...

Opening Times may vary during Public Holidays - please contact Brixton Recreation Centre Reception on 0207 926 9779 / 0207 926 9780

Christmas 2006
Closed Christmas day and Boxing Day
27th December - 29th December 8.00am - 4.00pm
30th & 31st December 8.00 - 6.00pm
Closed New Years Day
Tuesday 2nd January 2007 normal opening hours

 
Carnival Pool, Woking  Catch 22

Christmas Opening 2006

For specific opening and session times for the period December 24th to January 7th please contact reception, or collect a temporary timetable from reception. Please note that the normal pool holiday programme will not apply during this time.

How do you know when best to ring or collect if you don't have the timetable?

 

No summary of holiday hours found on the council website
Castle Sports Complex, Spalding      No Xmas Closures Listed  

Opening Times

Mon - fri 7.00 am - 10.30pm
Sat - sun 8.00 am 10.30 pm

Latest Information

BOOK YOUR TABLE NOW !!!!
XMAS AND NEW YEAR PARTIES TICKETS STILL LEFT FOR DEC 16TH & 22ND 7.30 -12.00 - £20 NEW YEARS EVE 7.30 -1AM -£25

Catering gets a mention but not the leisure need to get rid of the extra calories that the season tends to add.

Council links to LC website. No other in formation on hours found. 
Clapham Recreation Centre, Lambeth    OK

CHRISTMAS 2006
Closed Christmas Day and Boxing Day
27th - 29th December open 8.00am - 4.00pm
Saturday 30th & Sunday 31st December 8.00am - 6.00pm
Closed New Years Day
From Tuesday 2nd January 2007 normal opening hours

 
Daventry Leisure Centre     LC contract ended in October 2006

Opening Times

Monday 6.30am-11pm
Tuesday 6.30am-11pm
Wednesday 6.30am-11pm
Thursday 6.30am-11pm
Friday 6.30am - 10.30pm
Saturday 8am-6pm
Sunday 8am - 8pm

The contract is now with SOLL Leisure, who also do not show Christmas opening hours on their web page for the centre

No hours found on council web site.

Why is Daventry still listed by LC two months after the contract ended?

Deepings Leisure Centre, South Kesteven    No Xmas Closures Listed

Opening Times

Mon - Fri 6.30am - 10.30pm
Sat 8.00am - 6.00pm
Sun 7.30am - 10.00pm

No hours  found on Council website.
Dorking Sports Centre    Information provided but not well set out.

The following changes wil be made to our current opening hours: 24th & 31st December 09.00-15.00. 25th, 26th December & 1st January CLOSED. All other times will operate as normal.

SMALL POOL OPENING HOURS 18TH - 31ST DECEMBER: 18th-23rd; 09.00-17.00. 24th; 09.00-15.00. 25th & 26th; CLOSED. 27th-30th; 09.00-17.00. 31st; 09.00-15.00. 1st January; CLOSED. 2nd January onwards as normal timetable.

MAIN POOL OPENING HOURS 18TH - 31ST DECEMBER: 18th; 06.30-08.30, 50+ 08.30-09.30, general swim 09.30-20.00. 19th; 06.30-20.00, adults only 21.00-22.00. 20th; 06.30-20.00, lane swim 20.00-22.30. 21st; 06.30-08.30, 50+ 08.30-09.30, general swim 09.30-21.30, adults only 21.30-22.30. 22nd; 06.30-19.00. 23rd; 08.00-18.00. 24th; 09.00-15.00. 25th & 26th; CLOSED. 27th; 06.30-20.00, lane swim 20.00-22.30. 28th; 06.30-08.30, 50+ 08.30-09.30, general swim 09.30-21.30, adults only 21.30-22.30. 29th; 06.30-19.00. 30th; 08.00-18.00. 31st; 09.00-15.00. 1st January; CLOSED. 2nd January onwards as normal timetable.

 

No summary of holiday hours found. Unable to open two timetables that I downloaded.   
Dunstable Leisure Centre   No Xmas Closures Listed & Includes Reference to Summer  

Opening Times

Monday to Friday 6.15am to 10.00pm
Saturday 8.00am to 7.00pm
Sunday 8.00am to 9.00pm
Last admission 30 minutes before centre closes

Latest Information STUDENTS!!!

For those students who are returning home for the summer...

No hours  found on Council website

 

After much delay LC launched their new website at the end of 2005.    a few weeks several self-serving articles had been added.  E.g. from 20.1.06 under "News":

"With an increasing number of pools under threat of closure, local authorities should start considering viable, alternative means of providing swimming and leisure facilities instead of closing them down.  Leisure Connection has a range of solutions, which can ensure local swimming pools and centres are improved and maintained for the good of the local community and within affordability levels set by the public finances", says Graham Farrant, chief executive of Leisure Connection and himself a former local authority CEO (Barking and Dagenham)...."

I think it's a shame that the new website is not being used for what customers really appreciate, practical and timely information. 

To take one case, looking at LC's page for Clapham Leisure Centre on 12.2.06 -www.leisureconnection.co.uk/content/1/41/clapham_leisure_centre.html - you find  no information about opening hours or what facilities are provided. There is no link to a map, an easy enough feature to install. There is not even a link to the Lambeth Council web page that does list all this information. You will see  an invite to call but the centre,  

 

Comments Made 12.2. 2006

After much delay LC launched their new website at the end of 2005.  Within a few weeks several self-serving articles had been added.  E.g. from 20.1.06 under "News":

"With an increasing number of pools under threat of closure, local authorities should start considering viable, alternative means of providing swimming and leisure facilities instead of closing them down.  Leisure Connection has a range of solutions, which can ensure local swimming pools and centres are improved and maintained for the good of the local community and within affordability levels set by the public finances", says Graham Farrant, chief executive of Leisure Connection and himself a former local authority CEO (Barking and Dagenham)...."

I think it's a shame that the new website is not being used for what customers really appreciate, practical and timely information. 

To take one case, looking at LC's page for Clapham Leisure Centre on 12.2.06 www.leisureconnection.co.uk/content/1/41/clapham_leisure_centre.html - you find  no information about opening hours or what facilities are provided. There is no link to a map, an easy enough feature to install. There is not even a link to the Lambeth Council web page that does list all this information. You will see  an invite to call but the centre, unlike the web, is not open all the time and reducing calls to the centre speeds up services for others already there and possibly queuing. 

Had someone looked at the LC Clapham page and headed to Clapham Leisure Centre for a swim she or he would be very disappointed. Look what Lambeth Council have to say.

Main pool closed

Due to serious water leaks it has been necessary to close the main pool at Clapham Leisure Centre to enable urgent maintenance work to be carried out. The pool will remain closed for six weeks starting from 5 January 2006 while the essential repairs are made.

During this time the small pool will remain open to the public for the use of toddlers and young children.

Alternative swimming facilities are available at both Brixton Recreation Centre and Streatham Leisure Centre.

We apologise for any inconvenience this disruption may cause.

Come on LC, pull that finger out and stop writing PR puffs to gain new contracts until you have looked after your existing customers.