THE GRAPHIC DESIGN OF PETER SAVILLE


 

GRAPHIC EUROPE Barcelona 2003



ARTWORK Automne Hiver 91-92 Yohji Yamamoto

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The following are extracts from a talk given by Peter Saville at the Grafic Europe conference in Barcelona in March 2003, where he discussed the development of many of his most important projects from the first Factory poster in 1978 to his ongoing series of Waste Paintings.

Launch poster for The Factory, 1978

In 1978 when I was still at art college in Manchester, I got involved with the music scene and made friends with some people and that became the founding of Factory Records. Before I arrived on the scene Tony Wilson, who was in a way the prime motivator behind Factory, had done a poster for a club that was going to be called The Factory. It was a reproduction of a situationist piece. He asked me what I thought of it and I had to admit I didn’t really like it, I didn’t really understand it. My version of the poster had a symbol at the top that came off one of the workshop doors in the art college. It was a sign I’d been passing every day thinking that it looked great. When Tony told me that this new venue in Manchester was going to be called The Factory I thought that symbol seemed quite appropriate.

Working with Joy Division, 1979-1980

What we had in Manchester in the late 1970s was a group of people who just came together to do things that they wanted to do. We started The Factory, the club, because all of the other clubs had been closed down by the authorities. Punk had unsettled the establishment a little bit the same way that the rave scene did in the late 1980s. Suddenly there were no venues and so Tony took it upon himself to try to organise a new one. By default it became a record company mainly because Joy Division chose to stay with Factory and release an album rather than sign a deal with a major record company. Joy Division became a group because they wanted to make music. They didn’t really want to be in business or to make money, they just wanted to release the records that they wanted to make. What seems to have distinguished the work that I actually felt motivated by and interested in is working with people who are doing something because they want to do it and not because they think that there’s a business opportunity in it.

Early work for New Order, 1980-1983

When Ian Curtis (Joy Division’s lead singer) killed himself a month before the second album came out, it led to a kind of notoriety around Joy Division which seems to have lasted ever since. What was left of Joy Division after Ian died had to kind of reinvent themselves. It took them a while to find who they were going to be and to reinvent themselves as New Order. Releasing the single Blue Monday in 1983 was a defining moment for New Order. The cover is based on a floppy disk – I’d discovered one for the first time when I went to visit them in their studio. The single is an almost entirely sequenced seven minute track and the equipment plays it better than the group, so it seemed appropriate to wrap it up in a floppy disk.

By this time an unusual relationship had developed between me and my client in that they didn’t really ask what I was doing. By virtue of being a co-founder of Factory, I was in a way a detached director of the company and nobody really asked what I was doing. Everybody just got on and did what they did, and really there was no one to answer to. And in the case of New Order there was no one to answer to. When Ian had been alive he wrote the songs and I felt a certain responsibility to interact with the person whose work I was interfacing, whereas with New Order nobody really wrote songs and there was no obvious hierarchy within the group. There was a kind of argumentative democracy where they just agreed to disagree, so whenever we had any kind of design meeting I would ask them, for example, what colour would they like for something and one would say red, and one would say blue. As I was left to my own devices I kind of did what I wanted to do and used the work as a platform for either a) what I was interested in or b) what I felt was missing.

Doing record covers is a bit like playground art – you get open access to thousands of young people. Joy Division’s first album Unknown Pleasures was well received but maybe 50,000 or 60,000 people bought it, but because Ian had died, Closer sold hundreds of thousands of copies. And Blue Monday became the biggest selling 12” single of all time. So this kind of fairly self-indulgent work of mine occasionally went to a lot more people than I expected when I was doing it. I probably would have been terrified doing Blue Monday if I’d thought this is going to sell hundreds of thousands of copies.

Power Corruption And Lies album for New Order, 1983

At the time I was interested in the juxtaposition of historical culture and modern technological culture, and I was interested in the idea of what did history look like when it came up on a retrieval system on a computer screen and I wanted to juxtapose the kind of hieroglyphics of technology with historical classicism. The colours down the side are a colour alphabet and I converted the alphabet into a colour code in order to have an abstract code with which to work. The wheel on the back (of the album sleeve) was the only indication of the code but New Order fans still managed to work it out. They even pointed out there was a spelling mistake on the album.

Brotherhood album for New Order, 1986

I knew of Yves Klein from college but I didn’t really get it. And then in 1986 I did get it. I found an Yves Klein catalogue at a friend’s house in Paris and it made sense immediately. There was a kind of nothingness to it, a kind of romance and an excitement of nothingness. There was this show he did (in 1958) called The Void where the people at the opening were the show and the gold leaf and the monochrome blues. It was exactly the mood I was trying to find a way to express myself. By this time I’d just about grown up enough not to transpose things literally so I tried to do my own version of Klein. Trevor Key, a photographer who’d become my best friend, helped me and we bought cheap sheets of metal from a builder’s yard. It’s reflective and iridescent and goes different colours depending on how the light falls on it. For me it was 1986 and 1987 and it was my version of Yves Klein – just nothing. And Trevor said, “What do we do with the pictures? Are we going to retouch them?” And I said: “No, nothing. Just leave it. Just take the picture and leave it like it is.”

Joy Division compilation album, Substance, 1987

All the early Factory product had been on vinyl, but people wanted CDs of it so Tony Wilson invented a series of albums called Substance which were like early ‘Best ofs’. He asked me to do the cover and it was really difficult. What was the cover? This is like ’87 and seven years had gone by since Joy Division. I didn’t know how to do Joy Division in 1987 and I didn’t want to just reproduce the old covers. Finally Lecturis, the Dutch printers, sent me a catalogue they’d done for a Dutch sculptor called Jan van Munster and I saw this piece called Energy Peak. It’s a two metre steel cone that freezes up at the top and has a refrigeration unit inside. I was looking at it and went: “Wow, it’s so Joy Division.” Luckily nobody gave me any deadlines for this work back then. If I’d had to do this cover in two weeks I probably wouldn’t have done it, but given a month or so I finally stumbled over Jan van Munster. He was happy about his work becoming a cover for Joy Division so Trevor and I went to Holland, and took a photograph of Energy Peak. While we were away, Brett Wickens, who had started as my assistant and became my partner in the studio, figured out the type. We knew that Joy Division were this sort of tense relationship between the spiritual and the modern and that the sound is quite timeless with a juxtaposition of emotion and hard machinery, so Brett put Garamond and Crowel together which was a ridiculous idea but worked quite wonderfully.

Technique album for New Order, 1989

One day I said to Trevor: “I want a picture of a flower for the lobby of IBM in the year 2000.” And he was like: “Mmm, like an X ray?” And I said: “Well maybe like an X ray but not an X ray.” A few weeks later Trevor proposed a new way of making pictures which became like silk screening but with light. By 1988, we were really playing around and experimenting with this technique and at the same time New Order made an album called Technique. They went off to Ibiza in 1988, discovered ecstasy in the clubs and came back to England with one of the first rock-dance-ecstacy tracks, Fine Time. I was looking for something to use this photographic process that Trevor had developed and I found this cherub in an antique shop in London. A year ago someone writing a piece about this cover referred to the cherub as being bacchanalian. At the time, I hadn’t consciously thought of that but bacchanalian was quite a good reference point for 1988 and 1989.

The Haçienda and the demise of Factory Records, turn of 1990s

When Closer, the second Joy Division album, sold a lot of copies and Factory had hundreds of thousands of pounds that it didn’t know what to do with, we built the Hacienda which was in a way a kind of a dream of a club. But when we built it in 1981 it was a dream for the ten people who were there each night. It was like Yves Klein’s The Void – a 15,000 square foot industrial entertainment zone with no one there. It was a gift to the young people of Manchester but in 1981 they didn’t want it. By 1988 and 1989, when they were looking for somewhere to deal ecstasy, they found the Hacienda and it became the epicentre of drugs culture in Manchester. By 1990 the Hacienda on a Monday night was ‘Hallucienda’. It really was quite an amazing moment, but it was tragic as well. The first ecstasy death was there in the club – a 16 year-old girl, who was two years too young to even be in the club. By 1990 there were 1,500 people in there on a Saturday night and too many of them were carrying guns. It was very, very scary and no one had any idea how to deal with it. Ultimately The Hacienda closed and ultimately Factory fell apart as a result of it all.

Yohji Yamamoto advertising campaigns, early 1990s

In 1991 everything fell apart around me. My wilful kind of attitude towards work resulted in my studio being completely insolvent and my enthusiasm for what we’d been doing was kind of bankrupt as well. I felt that the mission design was on in the 1980s to try and bring something back into contemporary culture had become decorative by 1990. A cycle of repetitiveness was beginning and a cycle of marketing and unnecessariness. Design was about to become the new advertising and I felt kind of tired of it. I was still in contact with Yohji Yamamoto (the Japanse fashion designer for whom Saville had worked in the late 1980s), and he felt tired of it as well. He produced a women’s collection of clothes made out of wood. He quite purposefully made a collection that you couldn’t wear and he let me do the Game Over ad. He said: “Do it the way you would do record covers.” Fashion ads don’t have headlines on them, but that one did, I felt it was necessary to make the point. It upset the rest of Yohji’s company, but Yohji liked it. His US company wouldn’t support it. They said that they wouldn’t pay for advertising that didn’t show the clothes. I didn’t feel it was necessary to always show the clothes to communicate the mood of fashion but ten years ago it seemed it was.

Los Angeles and Republic album for New Order, 1992-1994

To escape the recession in Britain and to escape Pentagram (the London design group) where I’d ended up, I had a kind of Hollywood fantasy. I’d gone to Los Angeles to do a television identity in 1991 and been fascinated by the way Hollywood makes the world look. It’s quite interesting that you feel a bit cheated when you first go to Los Angeles because you realise that to make television and movies they just go out in the street, the whole place is just like a 24 hour movie studio and you drive around Los Angeles and you just keep seeing locations from movies. I came back to London and there was a New Order album (Republic) to do so I did it as a parody of the way the media repackages the world, with slightly cheap titles that look like an HBO movie. It’s what seemed to happen every year in Malibu. Every autumn there are bush fires and everybody’s house burns down and it’s OK because everyone just goes to the beach and builds a new house. It was very strange to us, this was a kind of fantasy. The images came together because Brett was experimenting with what you could do with the blend filter in Photoshop. Within a year we were living in LA. Brett stayed and I didn’t. I couldn’t bear it actually.

Working with Suede and Pulp, mid-1990s

Back in London in the mid 1990s, I found my work being recycled by another generation. It was initially a very scary time for me because I was like the last big thing. It’s very scary being popular in one era and then having to live through the next because you’re the first thing to get thrown out. There was an exciting new era in London in the 1990s - new designers, new artists, new fashion, new everything, and I was pretty much of the previous era. I didn’t quite know how to deal with it, but one or two things happened to make me feel OK. One was Brett Anderson (lead singer of Suede) turning up asking me to do Suede, and Jarvis Cocker (lead singer of Pulp) asking me to do This is Hard Core. I took a different role to my old one because they knew what they wanted but didn’t know how to do it and pretty much asked me to help realise what they wanted. For This is Hard Core (Pulp’s 1998 album), Jarvis had met John Currin, the New York artist, and they knew what they wanted to do but couldn’t quite make it happen. So they asked me to make it happen and it was a comfortable role for me. I was 42 years of age when I did this and you shouldn’t be doing record covers at 42 years of age. You’re not the audience, but Jarvis knew his audience for Pulp so I was a kind of facilitator and that’s the best place to be when you’re in your 40s. And with We Love Life (Pulp’s 2001 album) Jarvis turned up with some ornamental letters 19th century and said: “Can we have this?” I liked it a lot, but getting the letters was very difficult. There’s a man in London who seems to think he owns them and we had to pay £1,000 per letter! Anyway, there are two ‘P’s in Pulp but we only bought one ‘P’.

Corporate Identity

In the late 1990s, the more serious things befitting a 40 year old were beginning to come up mainly because there was a generation of my contemporaries who had been influenced through the music work who would then work in other industries and disciplines. Confronted with these serious real jobs I tend to be really boring and get very workmanlike about them. I don’t see a Mandarina Duck or a Givenchy or an EMI as a platform for what I want to do, I see it as a serious bit of business.

Waste Paintings, late 1990s onwards

In 1998 the boys that I work with in the studio were playing around in Photoshop and I saw something that they were doing and found it analogous to the time. By 1998 and 1999, I was getting quite concerned about the speed at which things were coming and going. People were spending weeks or years working on a product, designing a new chair, making a new piece, making a film and it was lasting for as long as the PR cycle - basically three months – and I found that quite sad. I mean, if you spend five years designing a new chair and it’s all over in three months it must be a bit disappointing. With graphic design we’re used to it because there is a disposability. but I was also aware of the fact that we were part of the disposability, we’re part of the system, trashing everything really fast. I tried to find some way to come to terms with that and in the end I took a kind of Warhol approach of “Gee isn’t it all great?” What I had observed in one of the filters in Photoshop was that you could actually recycle stuff, so we started shredding things that we’d been doing in the daytime and making something new out of them for tomorrow. It became a new way of working and it was empowering to make your own images. That’s one of the great things about Photoshop. Another great things about it is that Photoshop releases you from the tyranny of photographers and illustrators. I was asked to do a poster for American Pioneers, a music festival at the Barbican in London, so we shredded the stars and stripes. The composers were pioneers, innovators, rule breakers and inconoclasts, like John Cage and Philip Glass. I was trying to find a way into their music and I knew what the mood of it should be, so we took a stars and stripes and shredded it in Photoshop. It was fun!

© Grafic Europe/Peter Saville


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