THE GREAT LORRY DEBATE.

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Hi

I’m Ros and live on Harwich road Wrabness. I’m so glad to have found out about this concern about lorries on our roads, I have tried to get things done, everyone around me complains but they won’t do much about it. Last year I did have banners up in my front garden. These lorries give no room when walking along pavement even with a baby in pram or kids playing on pavement. They have nearly caused me to crash on numerous occasions. I have been forced too slam brakes on, in the car, on many occasions. I was tempted to go to lorry depot after one of these terrifying episodes, as i have been left shaken scared and furious, but with 3 kids in car who are also shaken up that would not be fair. Please have my support as something has to be done before a terrible accident involving some innocent resident or holiday maker.

Thanks very much

Ros

Totally agree! Have been scared silly many times with these speeding armature lorry drivers. What happened to all the professional drivers ? ED

Typical crash on the 'B1352' road happens a few times a year.

Here they come our highly trained HGV drivers.

An Average Day on Primrose Lane, a small country lane that in places is a single track road.

These were all taken between 12pm and 3pm on the same day

PS would you believe this lane has a 7.5T weight limit?

Road Block, as a lorry tries to turn off the Two into one will go. NOT!! If it gets too narrow I can

B1352 into Primrose Lane. Ah the intelligence of these drivers. Always make it wider.

Difficult turn but what the hell......... only likely to flatten the local residence. Easy does it, just keep off the grass.

No problem........... Lorry spots school mini bus...... Lorry doesn't give a dam

and attacks School bus.

Oh now a car in the way. Quick! Hide behind a house. I've lost something.

Ah maybe this was a problem after all !

Must have left it behind on this narrow road. Yikes car! take to the fields. Found it!

No doubt if the Wrabness residence complain enough someone will install a speed camera, very helpful.

In answer to the Emailed Question "Isn't this road a 7.5T 'Except for access' ?" This is the rule (as published by USDAW)

Maximum Gross Weight Restrictions

Lorry area controls are shown by traffic signs banning entry to lorries over 7.5 tonnes or 17 tonnes maximum gross weight (mgw). The signs refer to the gross plated weight of your vehicle – if it is over the weight shown on the sign then the prohibition applies to you regardless of the actual weight of your vehicle and load.

‘Except for access’ signs allow you to go past these signs if you need access to premises or land next to the road, where there is no alternative route.

So in the case of Primrose Lane.

1. Access next to the road, not a short cut or rat run too some point you want to access.

2. There is an alternative SAFER 'B' road route to all points that this country lane leads.

3. "Saving Diesel" and "Following SAT NAV" are not valid legal excuses.

Victory for the local villages.

T. W. Logistics planning application, which would mean that massive articulated lorries would have thundered through our single track county lanes has been dismissed. Full Adjudication <click here>

This environmentally destructive company has tried endlessly to make money at the cost of our countryside, homes and infrastructure. The greed of this company has been met by opposition on all fronts, well TDC needed a push here and there, and still they continued with their sickening attempts. How could any main stream reputable company want to have dealings with such an organisation.

!!!!!! NOT SAFE YET !!!!!!!

Have decided to appeal against the decision of Tendring District council. The Company wants to run massive lorries through this little village. With the Bathside Bay port development moving along, T W Logistics greed obviously rules over any other considerations. They seem to care little for the local residence, safety along country lanes or the environment they are already destroying.

Maybe T W LOGISTICS new mission statement should be

'In the name of profit Destroy the countryside'

I wonder if it would be happening if this man lived in Wrabness?

Mike Parker
Chairman & Chief Executive

T W LOGISTICS

P.S. THINK ABOUT IT! If YOU use this company YOU are helping to destroy this rural community.

No excuses.

No buts.

No More Lorries in Wrabness Village!

Many Thanks EK. <ed.>

On the 23rd January 2007 Tendring Council FINALLY voted, unanimously, to refused planning permission for the proposed increase in storage and hence increase in HGV's though our village. Now all we have to do is get the weight restrictions, that already exist, enforced. We presently have traffic cones planted in the kerbs of our roads where the lorries have trashed the edges into pits of mud. Pot holes and road side bank erosion makes driving down, what should be pleasant country lanes, a hazardous adventure. Any biker injured by these roads or sports car damaged by grounding should get in touch with Tendring Council and maybe even make a claim against them.

You are welcome to contact this web site too!

Thanks to all the emails from all over the world supporting us. We are not alone!!

!! THANK YOU FOR YOU CONTINUED SUPPORT !!

Election Results as of 4^th May 2007. Was this the backlash ?

Matthew Patten (E)	Conservatives	350
Mark De Roy	Liberal Democrats	244
Michael Mealing	Green Party	130
Wilf Rose	Labour and Co-operative Party	55

Wrabness.com mail box:

· Could we have the permission request / approval.

· Yes will publish this on this link ASAP. Planning application

· Should be name and shame on original application rejection.

· This is so sad. Environmentally and community, it is just bad. Keep me laughing or I'll cry!

· Thanks..... I think.

· Democracy in action. Villages allowed to speak ONCE and for only THREE minutes and only ONE person. Rubbish!

· Yep that surprised me too. (PS Sorry, had to change the last word)

· Anyone for a ballot. Bathside Bay got a referendum and if memory serves something similar happed in Wix.

· Well Done Wrabness Parish Council !!

They have called for upgrades to the approach to the storage depot. And additional more stringent controls on top of those already proposed.

They have written to Essex County Council asking for new signs and weight limits to be imposed and enforced. Good on them, why bother with wimp out Tendring go straight to Essex. Lets at least try and make it safer and put a stop to the total destruction of the smaller country lanes.

· Some happy news then WELL DONE WRABNESS PC.

· T W LOGISTICS LTD. Chairman & Chief Executive Mike Parker values his clients confidentiality. Shall we publish the names of all the lorries that go in and out ?

· Answers anyone?

And finally we got this last response, from our now less aggressive councillor.

I am wholly aware of the concerns and that is why I did not just move the application for refusal like many members wished to do (this always happens in the run up to an election year). To do this would have granted an unrestricted use right as on appeal an inspector rarely adds many, if any conditions and would certainly not under the circumstances have allowed a legal agreement.

If you wish your reporting to be accurate feel free to contact me but the current situation is not that the application has been approved but that it awaits the depot operators agreement. If, as they surely will, they refuse to sign up to the legal agreement then the decision becomes a non determination which the company can appeal against. However by doing this in this way the traffic issue will now be considered at any appeal and no government inspector should be able ignore it.

I can assure you and any others that I am more than angry about the reasons for refusal on the earlier application. The officer concerned is no longer with the authority (did they jump or was they pushed? Ed.) . This clearly shows why the government interferance in local planning is a disaster (errrmm..... no actually it doesn't. Does it? Ed).

I hope you can now see how complex the planning situation can become.

Rgds Mark De Roy

Later after informing our high school bully who I was, where I lived etc the reply came as follows:

For your further information I am at present following the progress of pressure on the Forwarding Company in question to sign up to the agreement of an absolute limit to lorry movements for the first time ever since this facility commenced its operations. If they fail to do so then I will press for enforcement to ensure the outside storage currently being illegally carried out against the permitted uses are stopped.

If you post this reply on the web page include the fact that to get the Council officers to agree to the legal controls on lorries I have guaranteed that I will represent the people of Wrabness at any appeal. This is regardless of whether I am voted in again in May 07. This is to ensure that if the Company appeals against this controlling condition the officers get my support, even if it is not heard before the maximum delay of 18 months approx (are so after the election then. Ed.)

Rgds Mark De Roy

Here's the reply from the local councillor, Mark De Roy (Lib Dem), at the time.

Hello webmaster. This comment and suggestion is from Mark De Roy your local Councillor on Tendring District Council (please use the correct spelling of your District.)

There is a saying that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Before you campaign against me or the party I represent check out your facts. As a result of my actions there now exists a possible limit to the lorry traffic down Wheatsheaf Lane for the first time since 1981 when permission was granted for the storage depot. Few realised that the 'restrictions' in place on this depot only limited lorries capable of carrying 10 tonnes and above so that mean's that lorry traffic of around 15 tonnes gross and below is totally uncontrolled. It is unlikely that the company will ever sign up to this agreement as per the permission granted by myself and my collegues (tut tut spelling. Ed ). That means it is either the same as a refusal or if they agree then it will stop the possible outcome of a fleet of 15 tonne lorries being used to ferry granite kerbs and the like in and out of the depot to totally and uncontrolled levels. Perhaps even hundreds of lorries each day as well as the artics.

This Government have introduced loads of laws to stop local councillors doing a good job for you the residents, we have to find loop holes to overcome decisions made by the unelected officers of the council behind closed doors that often affect the whole district or that can be disastrous for individuals like the residents of Wrabness. Any of you are at liberty to meet me at your parish council meetings or to contact me for more information so that you can be involved or understand what is done on your behalf. Don't be a coward and a fool who remains anonymous and who posts snide ill informed comment on a web site (now who said councillors were bullies? Ed ). Is it any wonder that few are prepared to put themselves up for election to receive this type of thanks. Remember that I, as a Liberal was the only party candidate other than a Green Party man from Bradfield (votes anyone. Ed) who was prepared to stand at the last election to represent you the residents. Where are the brave party candidates from Labour or the Conservatives? (hey must be election year. Ed)

I hope that you will now have the common decency to get in touch so that you can be told the truth and introduce some accurate reporting to 'encourage' those who wish to live in a nice 'friendly' village. Your aims do seem to be counter productive in depicting both ill informed comments and reporting more likely to deter any newcomers which will surely put off your target audience? (if it happens it will be here good or bad. Ed)

Rgds Mark De Roy

PS I am currently harvesting so hence the late hour I will be finished in about a week so get in touch as I shall be asking who runs this web site and will contact you if you do not get in touch (¶ They seek him here, they seek him there ¶. Why don't they use their heads and click on the link on web history page. Ed).

Never Forget The Lorries!

YOU CAN VOTE THEM OUT!

Tendring District Council has approved a plan to allow massive HGV's to run through and around the country lanes of Wrabness, Ramsey and Bradfield villages. With a very slick political trick they voted against the plan last year sighting landscape problems and endangered lizards, knowing full well that the Storage Dept. (at the heart of this issue) could easily fix that particular problem. Now they say they cannot oppose the increase in lorry traffic because the problem of landscape and lizards has been fixed. While most councils campaign for bypasses around villages, Tendring campaigns for trucks to come and destroy theirs. There are hardly any footpaths in Wrabness so eventually a child will be seriously hurt or even killed, but at least the lizards are safe!