Marshall Scott and The Deputies |
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Marshall Scott Etc
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Marshall Scott and The Deputies in March 1963
John Holden, George Scott, George Reid, John Armstrong, Don Pattinson |
Marshall
Scott and the Deputies were formed in West Cumberland in the early
sixties and found fame (if not fortune) later in the sixties, recording
for EMI at Abbey Road in the same studio as the Beatles, touring
in Europe, making promotional films (the forerunner of today's pop
videos), appearing on radio shows with Tom Jones, Engelbert Humperdinck
and Cat Stevens and having their own fan club with regular newsletters.
The
original line-up as shown here was (Marshall) George "Pod" Scott
on vocals, Donald Pattinson on lead guitar, George Reid on drums,
John Holden on bass and John Armstrong on rhythm guitar. They became
very popular in West Cumberland, playing in all the usual venues
such as the Princess Hall in Workington and the Miners Welfare Hall
in Siddick.
Their
fame then spread throughout Cumberland, playing at venues like the
Cosmo Club in Carlisle and then into Westmoreland and Southern Scotland. |
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In
the sixties the only hope of making records and finding national
fame lay in London. Marshall Scott and the Deputies were one of
only two or three Cumbrian Bands who took the plunge and re-located
to London.
They
initially lived in a B&B in Finsbury Park at £4 a week each and
set out to find a manager while playing in small clubs and finding
jobs (such as working in a timber yard and coffin making) to eke
out a living.
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Marshall Scott Etc.
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Early Days
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They found a manager through the music press and signed up with
the Norton York Agency and recorded a demo disk at Chiswick's Modern
Music Centre of two of their own songs "New Love" and "How It Oughta Be" which led to what all upcoming groups dreamt of - an audition with EMI records.
The band was originally going to be produced by George Martin but
due to his involvement in a Beatles LP he passed them over to Walter
Ridley who also produced The Swinging Blue Jeans.
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After playing four of their own numbers at the audition they were told by the producer that the audition was going to become a recording session and they were given a recording contract with HMV records which led to their playing in bigger and better clubs .
The downside of having a recording contract was that the record company decided where the band could play and when they had to be available for recording.
After one gig the band were approached by a lady from the Lebanon who wanted to fly the band out to play in the Miramar Hotel for £200 a night at the hotel's expense but EMI overruled it. They also stopped the band from taking up an offer to tour Sweden. |
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When
the day came for them to record their first single "Same Old Feeling" at EMI's Abbey Road studio they found that the band following them
in the studio was the Beatles and they set their gear up alongside
Ringo's drums which to George's surprise was the same black Ludwig
set as his!
When
the lads had finished their session they were asked if they would
like to stay on and watch the Beatles but, being true Cumbrian lads,
they replied "Nah, we're going for a pint".
EMI
also decided the name "Marshall Scott and the Deputies" was to be
too long for the record label and so it was shortened to "Marshall
Scott Etc" under which name their records were released.
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The two Georges - Scott & Reid
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The
single was backed by their own song "How It Oughta Be". The Beatles
session produced "Paperback Writer" and the session before the lads
had been for the Swinging Blue Jeans.
In
the October 1965 issue of "Jazz Beat" in a feature on "The London
Cavern" the magazine said "Monday nights are strictly for the stars,
I mean groups that really made it, like Zoot Money, the Moody Blues,
the Animals and Spencer Davies. Every Sunday there's a Cumberland
group, Marshall Scott etc. - four musical genii with a unique sound
and a sure fire hit for release on HMV"
A promotional film was shot for the record in Woburn Abbey and was
circulated by Pathe films to all the ABC cinemas in the country
and also went round Canada and the USA. Their single led to appearances
on the radio program "Swingalong" where they performed live alongside
stars such as Tom Jones, Engelbert Humperdinck and Cat Stevens.
The record was much played on the pirate radio stations (this was
before Radio One) reaching the Radio
London Top 40. They then found how the music
industry worked in those days, being asked for £250 to ensure further
plays on the station!
One big appearance for the group was at the Hammersmith Palais with
its revolving stage. Unfortunately just as they were about to start
their first number drummer George's chair fell off the back of the
stage and he disappeared! |
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In 1966
the band went on an European tour which zig-zagged between Switzerland
and the north of Germany (at one point they played two nights in
Switzerland followed by two nights in Kiel followed by two nights
back in Switzerland) in a van which could only manage 45 mph and
with George Reid as the only driver. The tour introduced the lads
to the nightlife of Hamburg, including the famous Star Club where
the Beatles had been regulars.
The
band's second single "Going Where the Loving Is" / "Come to Me"
was released on March 17th 1967 and featured as backing vocalists
Kiki Dee, Madeleine Bell and Leslie Dawson who were Dusty Springfield's
backing group and happened to drop in on the recording session.
The record was well received by the music press, being given a marvellous
review by the NME's "Alley Cat" and featured in the "Record Retailer".
Radio London made the record "Climber of the week" and Radio Luxembourg
ran a "Marshall Scott etc." competition with a prize of five guineas
(i.e. £5.25!)
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The record was supported by another short promotional film which started with the group outside Buckingham Palace in a Rolls Royce Silver Cloud (with Senator Robert Kennedy among the watching crowd) and showed them rowing across the Serpentine in Hyde Park and driving a pony and cart.
Other publicity stunts included kitting out the lads in western clothing and driving them down Fleet Street in London in a stagecoach and playing for two days in a shop window in Windsor High Street. For sales of their first record they were paid a halfpenny a copy but on the second one they got a penny!
By this time the band had their own fan club run by Margaret Powell and Sue Cherry which issued regular newsletters and photographs. In the issue of March 1967 they reported that Alan Coleshill (a Londoner) had taken over from John Holden on bass guitar. |

A demo of "Same Old Feeling" |
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The group toured widely within the U.K., playing in places like Edinburgh as well as occasionally making it back home to the Princess Hall in Workington to sell-out shows while also playing the top London clubs such as the Flamingo.
In one of the Workington shows in June 1967 they were supported by Don Pattinson's band The Renegades. Unfortunately
due to the sheer volume of top groups appearing at the time Marshall Scott
Etc. did not quite make it into the big time.
George "Pod"
Scott stayed in London and worked with various bands including the Bob
Miller band and Chris Barber. George Reid
and John Armstrong and returned to Cumberland and formed a new band called
Phoenix (pictured on the left).
Many thanks
to George Reid for providing the photographs and being the source of most
of the the information on the band. |