Badger Face Welsh Mountain Sheep
Advisory notes for buyers, breeding selection and ram inspection
Following a review of the required points of the breed, the Society gives the following advice to members and potential new owners.
When looking at stock to purchase or ram lambs to put forward for inspection, consider the following: would you breed from them? Even though they may have all the correct markings it is worth remembering that about 80% of our lambs go for meat. Will the ram produce lambs fit for the show ring and the butcher?
The points of the breed are published in the annual flock book, however interpretation of some descriptions may need some clarification.
The best advice may seem a bit obvious. Invite an inspector or experienced member to have a look at your stock, especially your lambs. They will advise you which to take for inspection.
Torddu:
Face: The colour can be off-white, grey or tan. Individual preferences will not affect registration. The black stripes will be at least 3/4” wide.
Ears: Should be small and dark inside. Large broad ears are not desirable and not true to type.
Throat: The most recognisable characteristic of a Torddu is the stripe that runs from the under side of the jaw to join the black belly. There must be no break in the stripe and grey is undesirable in the black. A minimum width is not stated, however a definitive edge is preferred.
Underside: The black belly wool is essential and should continue well up under the tail . The area either side of the tail (trousers / britches) should be black with no visible white or grey. This usually gets worse with age.
Tail: The tail should be full length. Obvious signs that the tail has been shortened will result in the ram being rejected. The underside of the tail must be black to the tip. There should be no black wool visible on the outside, however some may have twisted tails. Consideration may be given if the black falls a short distance from the tip ( if all other points are acceptable)
Legs: Should be predominantly black and must have a stripe ( this can be off white, grey or tan—usually the same colour as the face). Preference will be given to complete stripes. Broken or very thin stripes are undesirable but may be considered when all other points are satisfactory.
Upper wool: This can vary from pure white through grey to very light brown or tan—lighter shades are preferred. Visible black or dark grey wool in white areas is not acceptable. This topic is one which causes much discussion. Many prefer to see some kemp, especially as it is a sign of hardiness and others prefer dark fleeces. Inspectors will look for “patches” rather than variation between sheep. Darker wool which would be sheared off is preferred to dark wool grown from black skin.
Fleece: should be soft, firm and close as for Welsh Mountain sheep. Red kemp is undesirable, but may be overlooked.
Horns: (Rams only). If present should be dark coloured and spiral in growth. Horns are preferred but not essential. When buying a ram, check for shortened or removed horns as this ram may produce offspring with badly shaped horns.
Torwen
Head: Should be black or dark brown with distinct white stripes running along eyes towards nose. Over time this has become smaller and is often referred to as a “tear drop”. The lower jaw should be white and this area should run as far as possible down the throat. There should be a minimum of a bib.
Ears: Small. The outside should be the same dark colour as the head. Inside should be a light colour as the white area under the jaw. There should be no lighter colour on the outside of the ear. Large broad ears are not desirable and not true to type.
Body wool: Main colour to be black or dark brown, preference will be given to darker colours. (It is accepted that different soil types/minerals can make a difference to wool colour). There should be no grey in the fleece. Experience has shown that sheep with more white down the throat and neck tend to have more grey in the fleece and appear to turn grey much earlier than the darker sheep. Visible white or grey patches in the wool are not acceptable. The belly wool must be white and this colour should show distinctly around the tail.
Tail: Outside the tail should be as dark as possible. The underside must be white to the tip. Consideration may be given if the white wool does not extend right to the end. (if all other points are acceptable). Obvious signs that the tail has been shortened will result in rejection at inspection. Removing faults from tails does not stop this genetic characteristic passing on to the lambs from these rams.
Legs: Predominantly tan with a black stripe. The stripe should be full length, however it is recognised that this is often very difficult to get. Pre 1995 in the “points of breed” leg stripes were “preferred”. Since then stripes became essential in the breed description. Broken stripes are un-desirable, however consideration may be given if all other points are to standard.
Many ewes without leg stripes are kept for breeding . It is worth noting that these ewes would not be allowed in the Society sale.
Horns: If present on Rams, should be spiral and black. ( see picture) Horns are no longer essential for registration.
Wool: Should be soft, firm and close as for Welsh Mountain sheep.
General Information:
Conformation: Should be as for Welsh Mountain Sheep. It is impossible to predict how a sheep will develop when it is inspected at 3-4 months of age, however rams that are inspected in November should be the ideal size and suitability for breeding or slaughter.
Legs: In some sheep the pasterns appear weak. This usually appears in older sheep and continues to get worse. Occasionally this is seen in lambs and these should not be used for breeding as this fault can be passed to offspring.
Teeth: Should be checked before purchase or registration. These can be undershot or over shot . The incisor teeth should come into direct contact with the dental pad. Ideally any deviation should be no more than the width of a match. This fault is nearly always passed on to offspring. When “overshot” the sheep will have great difficulty grazing short grass.
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Following a review of the required points of the breed, the Society gives the following advice to members and potential new owners. When looking at stock to purchase or ram lambs to put forward for inspection, consider the following: would you breed from them? Even though they may have all the correct markings it is worth remembering that about 80% of our lambs go for meat. Will the ram produce lambs fit for the show ring and the butcher? The points of the breed are published in the annual flock book, however interpretation of some descriptions may need some clarification. The best advice may seem a bit obvious. Invite an inspector or experienced member to have a look at your stock, especially your lambs. They will advise you which to take for inspection.
Torddu:
Face: The colour can be off-white, grey or tan. Individual preferences will not affect registration. The black stripes will be at least 3/4” wide.
Ears: Should be small and dark inside. Large broad ears are not desirable and not true to type.
Throat: The most recognisable characteristic of a Torddu is the stripe that runs from the under side of the jaw to join the black belly. There must be no break in the stripe and grey is undesirable in the black. A minimum width is not stated, however a definitive edge is preferred.
Underside: The black belly wool is essential and should continue well up under the tail . The area either side of the tail (trousers / britches) should be black with no visible white or grey. This usually gets worse with age.
Tail: The tail should be full length. Obvious signs that the tail has been shortened will result in the ram being rejected. The underside of the tail must be black to the tip. There should be no black wool visible on the outside, however some may have twisted tails. Consideration may be given if the black falls a short distance from the tip ( if all other points are acceptable)
Legs: Should be predominantly black and must have a stripe ( this can be off white, grey or tan—usually the same colour as the face). Preference will be given to complete stripes. Broken or very thin stripes are undesirable but may be considered when all other points are satisfactory.
Upper wool: This can vary from pure white through grey to very light brown or tan—lighter shades are preferred. Visible black or dark grey wool in white areas is not acceptable. This topic is one which causes much discussion. Many prefer to see some kemp, especially as it is a sign of hardiness and others prefer dark fleeces. Inspectors will look for “patches” rather than variation between sheep. Darker wool which would be sheared off is preferred to dark wool grown from black skin.
Fleece: should be soft, firm and close as for Welsh Mountain sheep. Red kemp is undesirable, but may be overlooked.
Horns: (Rams only). If present should be dark coloured and spiral in growth. Horns are preferred but not essential. When buying a ram, check for shortened or removed horns as this ram may produce offspring with badly shaped horns.
Torwen
Head: Should be black or dark brown with distinct white stripes running along eyes towards nose. Over time this has become smaller and is often referred to as a “tear drop”. The lower jaw should be white and this area should run as far as possible down the throat. There should be a minimum of a bib.
Ears: Small. The outside should be the same dark colour as the head. Inside should be a light colour as the white area under the jaw. There should be no lighter colour on the outside of the ear. Large broad ears are not desirable and not true to type.
Body wool: Main colour to be black or dark brown, preference will be given to darker colours. (It is accepted that different soil types/minerals can make a difference to wool colour). There should be no grey in the fleece. Experience has shown that sheep with more white down the throat and neck tend to have more grey in the fleece and appear to turn grey much earlier than the darker sheep. Visible white or grey patches in the wool are not acceptable. The belly wool must be white and this colour should show distinctly around the tail.
Tail: Outside the tail should be as dark as possible. The underside must be white to the tip. Consideration may be given if the white wool does not extend right to the end. (if all other points are acceptable). Obvious signs that the tail has been shortened will result in rejection at inspection. Removing faults from tails does not stop this genetic characteristic passing on to the lambs from these rams.
Legs: Predominantly tan with a black stripe. The stripe should be full length, however it is recognised that this is often very difficult to get. Pre 1995 in the “points of breed” leg stripes were “preferred”. Since then stripes became essential in the breed description. Broken stripes are un-desirable, however consideration may be given if all other points are to standard.
Many ewes without leg stripes are kept for breeding . It is worth noting that these ewes would not be allowed in the Society sale.
Horns: If present on Rams, should be spiral and black. ( see picture) Horns are no longer essential for registration.
Wool: Should be soft, firm and close as for Welsh Mountain sheep.
General Information:
Conformation: Should be as for Welsh Mountain Sheep. It is impossible to predict how a sheep will develop when it is inspected at 3-4 months of age, however rams that are inspected in November should be the ideal size and suitability for breeding or slaughter.
Legs: In some sheep the pasterns appear weak. This usually appears in older sheep and continues to get worse. Occasionally this is seen in lambs and these should not be used for breeding as this fault can be passed to offspring.
Teeth: Should be checked before purchase or registration. These can be undershot or over shot . The incisor teeth should come into direct contact with the dental pad. Ideally any deviation should be no more than the width of a match. This fault is nearly always passed on to offspring. When “overshot” the sheep will have great difficulty grazing short grass.
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