Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
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Aired May 12, 2002 - 21:00 ET
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CNN - LARRY KING WEEKEND
Interview With Maharishi
Mahesh Yogi
Aired 12 May 2002 - 9-10 p.m. EST
LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight, exclusive. He was the
Beatles' spiritual guru and he turned the world on to
Transcendental Meditation. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi gives his first
TV interview in 25 years. Next, on LARRY KING
WEEKEND.
It's a great pleasure to welcome to LARRY KING LIVE,
from Vlodrop, Holland, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
He is the author of the famous book, "Science of Being and
Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation." He has not done
an interview in 25 years. The book has been newly revised and
updated, and it's an honor to welcome him to this program.....
Is "Maharishi" a title or a name?
MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI, SPIRITUAL
GURU AND AUTHOR: Title. I think people begin to
call - significant of the characteristic of the word
"Maharishi". "Maha" means great and
"rishi" is a seer. The seer of reality. The seer,
that's what people called, and it became a sort of name.
KING: What is Transcendental Meditation?
MAHARISHI: Transcendental Meditation
is something that can be defined as a means to do what one wants
to do in a better way, in a right way, for maximum results. It's
a program that the mind begins to experience its own finer
impressions, finer thoughts, and then finally transcends the
finest thought and gets to the level of what they call
self-referral pure consciousness,
which is the ultimate reality of life, pure intelligence, from
where the creation emerges, from where the administration of life
is maintained, from where physical expression of the universe has
its basis.
So Transcendental Meditation brings about transcendental consciousness, which is
self-referral consciousness,
the source of all intelligence.
[....]
KING: Why does it sound so hard to learn?
MAHARISHI: I've been teaching
Transcendental Meditation for 40, 50 years in the world, and
everyone who has learned it knows how simple it is, how easy it
is, because one's own consciousness
cannot be difficult to anyone. It's one's own life. It's one's
own intelligence. It's nothing difficult at all.
[....]
KING: Does it also improve you from a health
standpoint, a physical health standpoint?
MAHARISHI: Great amount of
scientific research is there to show that health is better,
because Transcendental Meditation deals with consciousness, and consciousness is the basic
value of all the physical expressions. The entire creation is the
expression of consciousness.
So when we handle consciousness,
through our attention, the consciousness
becomes awake, more awake, so more healthy. So it seems this
Transcendental Meditation has very good effect on health. It's
like the gardener watering the root of life and supplying
nourishment to all the leaves and all the branches and
everything.
[....]
KING: Where, Maharishi, were you on September
11th?
MAHARISHI: I heard about it wherever
I was, I don't remember now. Because I don't look back in time. I
have no time to look back. I have always looked forward, forward,
forward.
And now I have come to a level of creating a world free from
problems. There have been always wars. There have been always
this, this - negativity, and all this. Throughout world history!
It's not one instance. It's not one instance. So many Hitlers
were born, so many Alexanders were born - all those things. And
so many will continue to be born on earth. But, now I have come
to create a situation in the world, through about 40,000 Yogic
Flyers in the world, and Vedic performers, performers of yagyas,
in the world. And I'm collecting them in India.
And I invite everyone to send their donations for this purpose
which will deprive the world of negative trends in life. I want
to eliminate the basis of problems, and basis of crimes, and
basis of terrorism. That is my message now, now.
[....]
KING: Do you believe in perfection?
MAHARISHI: I'm bringing perfection
in life. It's not a matter of belief. I have the positive program
and the concrete program to create perfection in life. I want to
create every government to be free from military. Military is a
defeatist feature of a government. Government is not able to
protect the nation, and therefore they engage the people, give
them food that you will die for other people. The whole thing is
absurd and inhuman.
I want to create a global government, a global government. I
have created a country of global - Global Country of World Peace,
where no one would harm anyone, where no one would do any wrong
to anyone. The government will not need a military to protect
itself because the principle is that any military is a big
sinner. And the sin must come to every - to the whole
population.
[....]
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KING: We're back with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. How
can you be so optimistic, based on all the things you see wrong
in the world?
MAHARISHI: Optimism comes from so
many scientific researches to prove that Transcendental
Meditation, which I have taught for 40, 50 years in the world,
works to create a better man. In Fairfield [Iowa], we have that
management university [Maharishi University of Management]. And
the professors of the management university have found that the
world is being managed badly. Governments are not competent to
prevent problems, and therefore, higher intelligence is needed to
enrich and support the present situation of every government.
Every government, as I said already, has a man-made constitution.
And man made constitution has the value of human failings and
human weaknesses. That is why constitutions are there, and the
government is there, and the people are there, and the laws are
there. But those laws are futile. They are not able to prevent
wrong.
The corruption has been there. All those - crime has been there
throughout the ages.
KING: What...
MAHARISHI: Punishment has been there
by government throughout the ages. But punishment, and fear of
death - hanging them in the jails and all that - that has been
there, but crime continues.
Therefore, something else has to be done. And that something else
I am going to do from the level of the Vedic wisdom of life,
which proclaims man is divine. Man is all-competent. Human
potential is universal potential, universal capability.
So the concept of government has to be raised to that merciful
fatherly treatment of the population by the governments.
[....]
KING: What part in all of this, Maharishi,
does money play? There have been stories that you're the - you're
- that you have started what is a multi billion-dollar business.
MAHARISHI: I lack only $1 billion to
make a world - better world. So, many months ago, I had
publicized in the American papers that $1 billion endowment fund
will raise enough - this Vedic pundits to fly about. We want to
engage 40,000 people on a permanent basis, and they will have
enough intense influence of coherence in the world consciousness. And anybody
who wants to have peace - and everyone wants the peace - they
were invited to donate.
But I realized later that I was talking to the - this capitalist
country. And capitalist country, in their own fog, unless they
get something privately themselves, they'll not indulge into it.
So money has become prominent in a world of capitalism. That I
realized when nobody sponsored for world peace, and everybody
wants world peace. But they would not...
KING: Take part.
MAHARISHI: ...part with some of
their huge billions and millions in the bank. And so I said, all
right.
[....]
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KING: We're back with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
He's coming to us from Vlodrop, Holland. What is Yogic Flying?
MAHARISHI: Yogic Flying is that
level of creative intelligence in the self-referral consciousness that will
materialize the intention. Whatever the intention, materialize
the intention.
And what is this thing? This is the same creative intelligence
from natural law that makes huge galactic universe float in the
empty space. Every galaxy - huge weight galaxy - they are all
flying in empty space. What is that? It is the creative
intelligence at the level of pure intelligence, when pure
intelligence, in its self-referral unified state, assumes the
role of
fluctuations, of waves - like that, like that, like that.
So the same law of nature is captured in the transcendental field
of one's consciousness.
And then, with the thought that I should be in the air, the body
lifts up, body lifts up.
KING: Are you saying, then, that man is capable
of everything - that man could fly if he had obtained this consciousness?
MAHARISHI: That has been proved -
how many times? - as many times as people are flying. Four, five
million people are flying in their private values. Now we want to
have bigger groups. And bigger groups have been found to create
that worldwide influence. They influence the whole world consciousness, towards
positivity, towards harmony, towards higher values of
intelligence.
That is why we have the proof - we have enough proof in the Vedic
literature and we have enough proof from the modern science that
our teaching has that influence which will create a better world,
means a positive world, a harmonious world.
That is why we want to have a global administration of natural
law.
KING: Now...
MAHARISHI: We will not disturb the
existing administration by man-made laws in any country. We are
creating our own government, which is utilizing natural law,
which we have from modern science and which we have for effective
Vedic Science. So we have enough ammunition to win the race.
KING: How do they learn more about this? They
could buy the book, and the revised update of it. Is there
someplace they can contact direct to get more information?
MAHARISHI: I have hundreds of
centers for teaching Transcendental Meditation everywhere.
KING: Do you believe in a god?
MAHARISHI: I believe in God. And I believe in the custody of God
vested in kings. And I'm very happy to have your name as King. Is
it King?
KING: I'm the King.
MAHARISHI: I want to establish a
government in every country that will support life in the
country. This drama of four years, five years, change the
government, change the government, is only useful to the foreign
powers. This thing, democracy - I used to say "Damn the
democracy", because it's not a stable government. It's only
useful for foreign powers. It's a bad
thing for any nation to change the - A man comes for four years.
Now he is the president. And then he goes to jail tomorrow - then
he's jailed there.
Such inadequacy in the field of administration must be - create a
very chaotic population in every country. And that is the
situation in the world.
The whole field of education is very inadequate. It doesn't make
the human physiology totally function. The medicine - the field
of medicine is very poisonous. It's full of inadequacies, and
full of those - what we call, all these negative things - the
side effects of modern medicine...
KING: Yeah, but...
MAHARISHI: ...huge. I have in my
room - I have in my room the whole height of a floor full of
about eight- or ten-thousand bad articles on modern medicine.
But, modern medicine continues, continues. Those who are
producing medicine, they are only producing because they get
money. It doesn't matter if people die or suffer from any more
diseases.
And the governments support it. Your own government, in this, I
was hearing, is subject to so much of corruption. All this is
because life is not taught to the boys in the younger age.
Education is very, very inadequate.
The whole drama of science is a big fraud, everywhere. Hiroshima
was created in the name of science. Peace cannot be created in
the name of science. No. Hiroshima can be created. Afghanistan
can be created. And now Middle
East can be created. This is science. The whole thing is fraud.
The whole field is sinful. And those who will get into that come
to that realization. Sin - killing is sin. Whosoever kills, it is
sin, and the sinner will go to hell.
[....]
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KING: In our remaining moments with Maharishi
Mahesh Yogi, let's talk about yourself. Do you have a family?
MAHARISHI: The world is my family,
you know? I count them ...
KING: You have no children of your own?
MAHARISHI: That is what a family means - all the
children of the world.
[...]
KING: Do you go to doctors?
MAHARISHI: The doctors come to me
even before calling them. They like to see me year after year,
the same way, like that, like that. But the main thing is not so
important what I am. What is important is my program for the
world, that the world will be a better world. It will be free
from sins. Governments will be preventive administrations in the
world. That is important. I'm not important for the world. I'm
here for some time, gone. And everyone would finish the whole
story. But I have promoted a program which is practical,
positive, and simple for every individual...
KING: Where...
MAHARISHI: ...and for every nation.
KING: ...where did you learn it?
MAHARISHI: I learned it from my
master. I address him as His Divinity, Swami Brahmananda
Saraswati, in the Himalayas in India. And that I hold to be the
tradition of Vedic masters.
And that I came to teach in the world, and I felt successful
results on the individual, and now I am going to have a
successful result on the basis of nations - nations. National
governments everywhere, whatever they are now, I think they are
groping in darkness. And I have the lamp. I put the lamp, and the
light from the lamp will eliminate all their darknesses.
My nature is not to fight. I give the message, I give the
experience, and people take it, and more people take it.
And now, I'll have a government. I've created a government, and
created the head of this government - a great scientist, Dr.
Nader Raja Raam. He is M.D., Ph.D. He has
researched in the human physiology that the whole human
physiology is the expression of the underlying field of consciousness, the same
way as physics has discovered self-referral quantum field as the
field of consciousness
- self-referral.
On that basis of the realization or the discovery of the ultimate
field, I'm going to create a world of that profundity of
perfection which belongs to the perfection of the government of
nature.
KING: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi from Vlodrop,
Holland. His book has been newly revised and updated - the
version of the original book of many years ago - "Science of
Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation."
Optimistic? You bet.
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Good night.
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