From: Ross [positive@eisa.net.au] 27/11/98

I obtained your email address from Ruth Golding who, in turn,contacted me re

my enquiry for information on the Gordon-Cumming and Pilcher families in the

Hythe UK area.

Members of my family have only recently started to trace our family tree and

we obtained our Great-GM death certificate which shows her mother as a "Ann

Pilcher" and her father as "William Charles Gordon-Cumming". Our G-GM

(Charlotte Byrne) was born in Hythe 1856/57 and married George Byrne there

in 1872/73. As Hythe appears to be a small town(even by Australian

standards) I would imagine that our "Pilchers" would be related and I would

appreciate any information that you deem relevant.

Hoping to hear from you soon...Jane Vecchio (positive@eisa.net.au)

From: DawnC86548@aol.com  3/12/98

HI,

I am trying to trace my great great great grandmother's family. Her name was

Mary Ann Pilcher and her father was Charles Pilcher. They lived in the Rye

area.

Does this sound familiar?

Dawn Christenson

Hello,

Are your Pilchers from Kent by some chance? My Pilcher family left

Sandwich,

Kent for Maryland about 1682.

Ronnie Ranew

Hi Deirdre.

I note your research into Pilcher, and wonder if you have accumulated

any material on Pilcher and Goldsack of Margate in the middle 1800's.

This business is shown as Builder and Undertaker in Pigootts 1839

directory, also Wheelwright. I believe it was also in a Kelly's

directory later.

My gt.x 3 grandfather was Isaac Goldsack, a partner in the business.

He was a master carpenter.

I would be most grateful if you could enlighten me regarding the

founding and operation of this business which operated from an

address on King St. in Margate.

Thanks in advance

Ken Hooper

Toronto, Canada.

Deirdre

What kind of software do you use to record your family tree listings. If it

is Family Tree Maker I will send you a copy of the disk. (5.0) I have a

little over a hundred names. Mine starts out with Stephen in England. I

would like to find out more about the Pilcher's in Culpepper, VA and in

Scyley County Ga.

Thanks Charles Pilcher

Hi Deirdre

It has been suggested that I write to you, because you may be able to help

me with an ancestor that I have recently stumbled across.

Her name was Elizabeth Pilcher, and I know that she married a Ingram Willis

in 1800 in Kingston, Kent. Unfortunately, this is as far as I have managed

to get as yet. They lived at Barham at some point because this is where

their son Thomas Willis was born in 1810.

I would be most grateful to know if you have come across this lady.

Regards

Michelle Campbell

From: Matthew.Pilcher@nestlegb.nestle.com 05/01/99 16:10

Hi,

Fascinating site, but then I am biased!

My name, as you can see, is Matthew Percy Pilcher, only son of Brian Percy

Pilcher, I also have a sister, Aline.

My father's father was Percy Travers Pilcher, born 1900 ish and died in

1974. His father was Algernon Percy Pilcher (I think). You will not be

surprised to know that we are the part of the family sprung from the aviator

and inventor of the 'Hawk' and the 'Beetle'.

You may be able to cast some light on a family mystery... as far as we know

the family is originally from Northumberland, and a significant portion

moved to Kent. It is our understanding that we picked up the Percy (which

goes back further than I've been able to divine) as the result of a 'wrong

side of the blanket' affair between a member of the Percy family (Dukes of

Northumberland) and a humble wench (a Pilcher). Any views?

I would be very interested to hear from you.

M

From: Julie Cheesman [juliec@clara.co.uk] 14/01/99 23:30

Hello Deirdre

Marriage index entries for Pilcher at Lyminge:

b=bride, f=father, g=groom, w=witness

Pilcher,Ann Elizabeth 11/1/1855 b

Pilcher,Charlotte 11/1/1855 w

Pilcher,Charlotte 17/9/1861 b

Pilcher,George 28/5/1833 w

Pilcher,George 11/1/1855 w

Pilcher,George 17/9/1861 w

Pilcher,Henry 2/3/1861 w

Pilcher,Jemima Elizabeth 20/6/1848 w

Pilcher,Sarah 12/6/1842 b

Pilcher,Thomas 12/6/1842 f

Pilcher,Thomas 20/6/1848 w

Pilcher,Thomas 11/1/1855 f

Pilcher,Thomas 11/1/1855 w

Pilcher,Thomas 17/9/1861 f

Pilcher,Thomas 17/9/1861 w

Pilcher,Thos 22/10/1816 w

Pilcher,William 7/10/1815b g

I'll just go through these and find the actual entries, it looks as if I did

more years than I said, probably from 1812. If you find I've missed any from

the above list then please mention it.

Pilcher,William 7/10/1815b g

Widower, m Sarah Fordred, spinster, both otp. Witnesses John Gardner,

Elizabeth G, Ann Woodland, John W

Pilcher,Thos 22/10/1816 w

John Prebble, bach, otp, m Mary Ridden, spin, of Paddlesworth. Other witn Wm

Prebble (he was the parish clerk). Paddlesworth was a chapelry annexed to

Lyminge.

Pilcher,George 28/5/1833 w

John Croucher, of Godmersham, m Sarah Amos, otp. Other w Charlotte Croucher,

Wm Prebble

Pilcher,Sarah 12/6/1842 b - full age, spin, of Paddlesworth

m Richard Bates Goodwin, 24, bach, of Ivy Church in Romney Marsh.

Pilcher,Thomas 12/6/1842 f, farmer. RBG's f John Bates, farmer. Witn William

Bates, Harriet Marsh

Pilcher,Jemima Elizabeth 20/6/1848 w

Pilcher,Thomas 20/6/1848 w

Henry Pound Sharp, fa, bach, otp, m Jemima White, fa, widow, otp. His f John

S, labourer, her f, Thomas Green, farmer

Pilcher,Ann Elizabeth 11/1/1855 b - fa, spin, otp

m James Browning, fa, bach, farmer, of Elmsted

Pilcher,Thomas 11/1/1855 f, farmer. JB's f James B, farmer

Pilcher,Thomas 11/1/1855 w, Pilcher,Charlotte 11/1/1855 w

Pilcher,George 11/1/1855 w

Pilcher,Henry 2/3/1861 w

Hezekiah Tutt, 22, bach, lab, otp, m Fanny Hood, 19, spin, otp. His f

Stephen T, lab. Her f James H, lab. Other witn Emma Hood

Pilcher,Charlotte 17/9/1861 b - fa, spin, of Hempsted

m John Hogben, fa, bach, Smith, otp

Pilcher,Thomas 17/9/1861 f, farmer. JH's f Thomas H, farmer

Pilcher,George 17/9/1861 w, Pilcher,Thomas 17/9/1861 w, also Mary Jacob

I have Hogbens at Lyminge but there were three separate lines there. This is

not my line. John and Charlotte moved away from Lyminge but returned by 1881

with several children. I suspect that I do not have all of them. If you

would like the names I have found I can supply my census findings for 1881

and 1891.

I don't think I'm going to have much time to search the earlier fiche for

Pilchers at the moment. Let me know if you have any specific enquiries and

I'll probably be able to fit them in.

I am conducting a one-name study of VALDER, they appear to originate at

Sandwich in about 1690 then spread to other parts of Kent including Deal,

Margate, Lyminge and Folkestone. If you come across any please let me know.

Best of luck with your researching

Julie

From: Vernon Pilcher [Vernon.Pilcher@btinternet.com] 23/01/99 18:02

From: Les Beecher [les.beecher@xtra.co.nz] 27/01/99 02:59

Hi Deirdre, from New Zealand

I am interested in any PILCHERs from the Isle of Thanet, Kent, that may

have a proven connection in some way to my HARDEN or REYNOLDS line, more

so at Margate, Broadstairs or Minster?

Cheers

Les

From: The Goldings [Goldingfamily@btinternet.com] 03/02/99 23:08

Hello Deirdre

Here they are:

St Leonard Hythe Marriage by Banns

No 314, 27 Apr 1861, George BEAR, of full age, bachelor, Bricklayer,

Hythe. Father: James BEAR, Bricklayer

Sarah Anne PILCHER, of full age, spinster, Saltwood. Father: Thomas

PILCHER, Gardener

(Daughter of Thomas and Mary b. 1836?)

St Leonard Hythe Burials (abodes all Hythe)

No 66, Elizabeth PILCHER, Inft, 9 Mar 1814 (George & Margot's?)

No 120, John Frederic PILCHER, Inft, 24 Mar 1815 (Thomas & Hannah's?)

No 126, Lydia PILCHER, Inft, 18 May 1815 (George & Margot's?)

No 373, Charlotte PILCHER, Inft, 19 Nov 1821 (George & Margot's?)

No 433, Stephen PILCHER, 31 years, 2 Jul 1823

No 789, Hannah PILCHER, 44 years, 30 Jun 1830 (likely your Hannah

HENLEY?)

No 1071, Elizabeth PILCHER, 64 years, 12 Feb 1837

No 1140, Sarah PILCHER, 57 years, 19 Jul 1838

No 1288, Thomas PILCHER, Inft, 10 Sep 1842

No 1342, John PILCHER, 5 years, 5 Jul 1843

No 1416, George PILCHER, 67 years, 29 Dec 1844

Now, here's a funny thing:

Banns June 1803:

William CLARKE of New Romney and Hannah HENLEY of this parish

Banns July 1803:

Thomas PILCHER of this parish and a.n. other (drat, forgot to note

this one down)

Banns July 1804:

Thomas PILCHER and Hannah HENLEY of this parish

Ruth Golding

Kent, England

E-mail: GoldingFamily@btinternet.com

Home Page: http://www.btinternet.com/~goldingfamily

From: Julian Pilcher [Pilcher@steventon98.freeserve.co.uk] 01/03/99 12:58

From: Bert Pilcher [apilcher@sprint.ca] 02/03/99 20:39

Deirdre,

You never cease to amaze me--the Web site is awesome. I'm even more

intimidated now!

Thanks for the additional info. From what little I have reviewed it

looks as if most Pilchers came from SE UK, is that right? Of interest,

there was a note from Colin Penny that may be of some help to me. Keep

up the wonderful work.

How's the move going?

Regards,

Bert Pilcher.

From:Gordon Lickfold [gordon@gladorg.force9.co.uk] 09/03/99 16:06

Sorry for long delay. I'm in a busy patch with work.

Thanks for trying. This doesn't seem to be the right one as my mother's

ancestor Thomas Pilcher was b 1829 and his wife Mary in 1830.

BTW: I have "lost" the notes i sent you in a Word doc. somewhere on my

hard disk. If you still have them, i wonder if you could attach to an

email back to me please. That would be very helpful.

Also, i can't remember if i sent you the photocopies. Did you get them ok?

With best wishes,

Gordon

Dear Deirdre

Thanks ever so much for sending the file i lost. Now i have filed it -

safely i hope - with info downloaded from your web site.

> Yes, I did get the photocopies, I thought I'd said so and thanked

you...so

> forgive me if I hadn't, I've been distracted lately!

I'm sure you did. It's more likely my memory that's at fault!

Best wishes

Gordon

From: Neil Hadfield @ Home [neilh@wpds.com] 24/03/99 03:01

From: P.Pauley [patricia_p@talk21.com] 18/05/99 15:56

I saw your e.mail address on the Kent Surnames List.

Dear Deirdre,
I saw your e.mail address on the Kent Surname Interests List and wondered if you can see a connection.

My Gt grandfather was George Pilcher born 2nd January 1852, died January 1921.

He married Sarah Anne Hammond (daughter of a baliff) 1874 at Wingham (Near Canterbury).

My grandfather Lyster William Pilcher was born 4 February 1880 at Tankerton (near Whitstable).  He married my grandmother Rosamond Elizabeth Alexander in June 1904 at Herne Bay.  My mother grew up at Herne Bay but they moved to Micham, Surrey in 1926.

Both my Gt Grandfather and Grandfather were carpenters, cabinet makers and I have been told originated from Womenswold in Kent.  In later life my grandfather had his own factory designing interiors for ambulances.   He was an officer in the Army during the second World war and was also was in France in the 1st World war at the age of 17.  He died in 1945 and is buried at North Cheam Cemetry.  Have lots of information on relatives.  Can you see a connection with your family.

Would be pleased to hear from you.

Pat Pauley
Waterbeach, Cambs

patricia_p@talk21.com

From: Ken Lane [klane@ns.sympatico.ca] 27/07/99 21:09

Hello from Sackville, Nova Scotia:

I am trying find more information on Hannah Pilcher abt 1797 of Elham,

Kent, England. She married William Spicer abt 1818 and had several

children before leaving for Ontario, Canada. Children's names were Mary

Ann, Richard, Henry, John, Margaret. We don't have much information on

them before they left England. Look forward to hearing from you. Robyn

From: Louis R. Mills [lancelot@ap.net] 08/08/99 23:43

Deirdre,

Regarding your KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com posting of Sun, 8

Aug 1999

> Genealogy interests:

> PILCHER - all; HERLEY -all,

I have a James PILCHER in my tree, who shows up in 1770 in

Capel le Ferne, near Folkestone, married to "Elizabeth". They

proceed to have seven children thru 1783, but it is their daughter

Anne, born 1774, who is my ancestor. She married George

BROMLEY in Hougham in Nov. 1794.

I don't have a birth or death date for James PILCHER or any idea

where he was born. Does he show up in your database?

Lou

From: Beth Quinlan [bethq@alphalink.com.au] 09/08/99 02:44

Hi Deirdre,

Hope you do not mind me emailing you to enquire to see if you can help me

re info. on a Mary Pilcher who married a William Croucher in 1805 in

Godmersham and had a son John bap. 9 Mar. 1806 in Godmersham. They are my

diect line on my grandmothers side and I would love to find out any more to

continue my research which I have just started on the Croucher / Pilcher /

Farrance line in Godmersham and Crundale, Kent.

Regards and T.I.A.,

Beth in Melbourne, Australia. ( bethq@alphalink.com.au )

From: Des Wootton [woottondes@microtech.com.au] 08/09/99 12:18

Deirdre

Noticed your request in one of the Kent Family History magazines.

The enclosed list is what I know of Daniel Pilcher's family. The Noel

Livermore mentioned lives at 8 Eltham Park Gardens, Eltham, London, SE9

1AW. ph 081 850 2788. He has been a great help to me with tracing the

Wootton family history and I feel sure he has a lot more on the Pilcher's. I

keep forgetting to ask him for his line history when I write to him.

I hope this is some small help in your study and I would be interested in

any more details you may have on this particular family.

I am a descendant of Thomas Wootton's younger brother William.

Des Wootton - 3 Ethel St., Scottsdale, Tas 7260

1. Daniel PILCHER #4922 born 0 ___ 1813, Wingham, Kent, England, occupation:

Schoolmaster, married 0 ___ 1839, in St Lawrence, Kent, England, Emily Ann

WOOTTON #4906, born 0 ___ 1819, Sellinge, Kent, England, baptised: 21 Dec

1819, Sellinge, Kent, England, (daughter of Thomas WOOTTON #2345 and

Elizabeth HILLIER #4509) died 0 ___ 1873, Islington, buried: 0 ___ 1873.

Daniel died 0 ___ 1849, St Peters, Kent, England, buried: 0 ___ 1849, Kent,

England.

11. Rose PILCHER #5243 married Charles LIVERMORE #5244.

111. ? LIVERMORE #5245 married ? UNKNOWN #5246.

1111. Noel LIVERMORE #5247 married _______ UNKNOWN #8417.

11111. ______ LIVERMORE #8418

11112. ______ LIVERMORE #8419

11113. ______ LIVERMORE #8420 married Richard UNKNOWN #8421.

12. ______ PILCHER #8449

13. ______ PILCHER #8450

14. ______ PILCHER #8451

15. ______ PILCHER #8452

16. ______ PILCHER #8453

From: Dreama Pilcher [dpilcher@alltel.net] 08/09/99 14:1

From: Kerry Young [kayoung@bigpond.com] 16/09/99 22:29

Hi Deirdre

I noticed that you are researching al Pilchers. I have a Thomas Pilcher

marrying MaryAnn Sharpe in 1817 at St Mary The Virgin Dover. They had (I

think) the following children Charlotte (1828) Emma 1826 Harriet 1824 and

Louisa 1822 in Deptford. There could be others. The witness to the marriage

was David Pilcher.

Any connections

Kerry Young

Brisbane Qld Aust.

From: Mario Pinti [WritePlus@ssc.net.au] 26/09/99 14:43

From: AAB1930@aol.com 29-Sep-99 19:48

Hello, 
My name is Al Blacklaw. My wife's maiden name is Pilcher. We are tracing 
the Pilcher line.
The Pilchers were organ makers and came to America about 1832. They 
supposedly left England from Dover. Their names were, William, Henry & 
William Henry. Any info would be appreciated. I will be glad to exchange 
ant that I may have. Thanks.

Al Blacklaw

From: MBo7588971@aol.com [mailto:MBo7588971@aol.com]

Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:46 AM

To: deirdre@btinternet.com

Subject: Pilcher Family

Hello Deirdre,

We notice from the KFHS mailing list that you are researching the surname

PILCHER. One of our 5 x great grandmothers was Susanna PILCHER, who married

Thomas SHAXTED 27th May 1729 at Ickham. So far we know of the following

children born to Thomas and Susanna, all of whom were baptised at

Wickhambreaux:

William bapt. 14th October 1729

Thomas bapt. 12th November 1732

Susannah bapt. 11th April 1736

Elizabeth bapt. 9th August 1738

George bapt. 14th August 1744

Susanna's husband died 1748/49, and she was remarried 10th December 1752 at

St. Andrew's church, Canterbury to Robert BEALE (also widowed).

Susanna's son, George SHAXTED, married Sarah EPPS 20th April 1771 at St.

Nicholas at Wade, and their eight known children were baptised at Ickham.

Their son George is our 3 x great grandfather. If you have more information

regarding Susanna PILCHER and her ancestors, we would love to hear from you.

In return, we can supply details of her descendants, if they are of interest

to you.

Bye for now and best wishes,

Michael and Tanya

From: Pat Zipf [mailto:patz@home.com]

Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 5:48 PM

To: deirdre@btinternet.com

Subject: Pilcher of Kent

Did I see on the Kentgene list that you are in interested in all PILCHER

info? My connection is my 8xgreat grandmother, Mary nee Pilcher, who

married John BELSEY, Yeoman, 6 Feb 1672 at St. Mary Bredin, Canterbury,

Kent. Mary may have been from Nackington, Kent? They had five children,

Elizabeth, 1673, John, 1675, George, 1684, (my line), Mary, and Isaac, 24

Mar 1689. Mother Mary nee Pilcher Belsey died in 1692. She may have been

the daughter of Susan and John Pilcher. Any help? Hope to hear from you in

the near future. All the best, Pat Zipf Jamesburg NJ USA patz@home.com

From: Debby Cummings [mailto:dcumming@srna.org]

Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 4:09 PM

To: Deirdre@btinternet.com

Subject: Pilcher Surname

Looking for Pilcher who would have married a Cornelius. My g grandfather was William George Pilcher Cornelius. I think maybe his mother's maiden name was Pilcher. Can you help?

From: CHSGW69@aol.com [mailto:CHSGW69@aol.com]

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 1:13 AM

To: deirdre@btinternet.com

Subject: Pilcher's in Kent

I am looking for Nathaniel Pilcher, wife Mary. I have no dates on them.

They had

4 children: Mary Ann baptized 6-16-1799; William, baptized 7-19-1801; Henry,

baptized 5-6-1804, and Sarah, baptized 6-8-1806. Any information on them

would

be helpful. Henry was my great great great grandfather.

Thanks

Carolyn Reese

CHS GW69@aol.com