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Dackombe
Daccom Dackham etc genealogy
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10 November 2008 |
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Dr Geoffrey Mann |
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10 John DACKOMBE 1607-1644 |
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m Mary HUDSON 1641 |
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John Dackombe was born in 1607 and baptised at St Martin in the Fields, London. His father was a lawyer of the Middle Temple and he reserved a place in the Temple for his son when he was just a year old. John was probably brought up on his parent’s estate at Edmonton, leased from Sir Robert Cecil, to whom John’s father was secretary. When he was nine, John’s father was knighted by James I and made Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, but he died two years later. John was educated at Isleworth and Caius College Cambridge before taking his place in the Middle Temple. He did not have his father’s ambition or perhaps his ability and resigned his chamber in 1632 when he was 25. He married Mary Hudson in the City of London in 1641 and they lived at Edmonton until at least February 1642. Some time after they moved to nearby Tottenham High Cross and a son Robert was born about 1644. John died at about the time his son was born aged only 36. This was during the civil war, but there is no evidence that John was involved militarily. No record of his death or burial has been found. |
C = Christened
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John baptised at St Martin in the Fields, son of John and Melior place reserved for John in Middle Temple to take his father’s place father died matriculated from school in Isleworth entered Caius College Cambridge surrendered his chamber in Middle Temple married Mary Hudson at St Peter, Paul’s Wharf in the City of London John Deacomb Esq listed third in Edmonton protestation return moved to Tottenham son Robert born died |
b=born m=married d=died
C=Christened B=Buried
The will of Melior Dackombe, wife of Sir John Dackombe was signed on 8 July 1644 and refers to “my little grandchild Robert DACKOMBE” and to “my daughter Mary DACKOMBE the late wife of John Dackombe Esquire my only son, the mother of said Robert my grandchild”
At present it is
assumed that this little grandson of Melior DACKOMBE was Robert DACKOMBE-9. Robert’s parents therefore were John &
Mary Dackombe, and his father, John-10, was the only son of Sir John and
Melior. The Cambridge alumni notes he
was born in London and was aged 17 in 1624.
John Dackombe Admitted Fellow Com (age 17) at Caius 4Dec1624 son of Sir John
knt of Templecombe Somerset. Born in
London; School:Isleworth Middlesex (Mr Willis). Matric 1624. Of Edmonton
in 1649 (Alumni Cantabrigienses, J.A.Venn 1.269)
John was
therefore born in London about 1607 and there is a suitable baptism at St
Martin in the Fields in 1607; although the parent’s names are not given, the
above information and the comparatively rare surname identify the record with
confidence:
C 5Nov1607 Johannes DACKHAM
Moreover,
Sir John reserved a place for his son John in the Middle Temple the following
year:
22 Nov
1608 John Daccombe admitted to Middle Temple, in expectancy of his father
The will
of John’s mother, Lady Melior, (see below for a transcript) refers to “my
little grandchild Robert Dacombe” and contains the following “… if my daughter
Marie Dacombe the laite wife of John Dacombe Esquire my onlie sonne I say if
the said Marie the mother of the said Robert my grandchild …. “. The will was
signed on 8 July 1644, so Robert was born not long before 1644 and the marriage
should precede this. There is a
suitable marriage at St Peter, Paul’s Wharf, London:
m
16Aug1641 John DECKCOM bch & Mary HUDSON
The names
John & Mary are correct and the timing is right. The surname is uncommon, so there seems little doubt that this is
the correct marriage, though no other confirmation has yet been found such as a
will or other document from the Hudson family.
No
descendants are known other than Robert, the little grandchild of Lady Melior. From the above records he would have been
born between 1642 and 1644, but no baptism has been found. This is before the inter-regnum but at the
outbreak of civil war, so perhaps the absence of a baptismal record is not
surprising.
John was
listed at Edmonton in the Protestation Return of February 1642, but the admon
granted to his son (see below) suggests that the family moved to nearby
Tottenham High Cross, perhaps at the time of Robert’s birth.
The will of Lady Melior Dackombe signed 8 July 1644 refers to her daughter Mary “the late wife of her only son John Dackombe”. From other parts of the will it is clear that Mary was still alive so John was already dead by July 1644. This is confirmed by a chancery suite brought by John’s son Robert which notes that John died in the lifetime of Melior. The protestation return for Edmonton in February 1641/2 lists John DEACOMB Esq in third place so he died between Feb1642 and Jul1644.
How can
these records be reconciled? In view of
the rarity of the surname, it seems very unlikely that there were two different
John Dackombe’s, both Esquires, one living in Edmonton, the other in the
adjacent parish of Tottenham, both with sons named Robert. [The protestation returns of 1641/2 have
John Deacomb Esq in Edmonton, but there are no Dackombe’s in Tottenham].
If there were two different John Dackombe’s living so close then clearly they would be related. The possibility that John of Tottenham was the son of John of Edmonton can be ruled out, as his hypothetical son Robert would be an infant in 1665 and unable to be granted admon.
John’s uncle, Nicholas Dackombe of Richmond,
had a son John born in 1624 but he died in 1626 and no later sons are
known. Any later son named John could
hardly have a son Robert aged 21 by 1665.
The most
likely explanation is that the son Robert was granted administration of his
father’s estate after he reached the age of 21. The chancery suite C10/111/20 states that Robert was not above 4
years old when Melior died (in Jny1646/7) so he was born in 1643 and would have
been 21 or 22 in 1665.
Henry
NEVILLE alias SMITH married Lady Melior’s daughter Alice. He was therefore brother-in-law to Melior’s
son John and record 3 above must refer to this John Dackombe. The record can only be reconciled with
John’s death in 1642/44 by assuming that the Committee did not know that he had
died. I cannot yet determine whether
this is a reasonable assumption. 1649
was the year after Charles’ execution but before the appointment of
Cromwell. The committee was a product
of parliament’s attempts to obtain money from royalists. If it met in London as seems likely, then it
could be working from lists drawn up without local knowledge and the assumption
might be a reasonable one.
It is
concluded that John-10 died between Feb1642 and Jul1644. No burial record has been found, but the
Edmonton parish register was very poorly kept at this time. The admon granted to his son suggests that
John may have moved to the adjacent parish of Tottenham High Cross possibly
about 1643 when his son was born. The
burial records of this parish have not yet been searched.
Protestation return 1641/2 for Edmonton (photocopy of document in House of Lords Library)
“A volume of the names of all the householders and other inhabitants
within the parish of Edmonton in the County of Middlesex that hath willingly
taken the protestation recommended unto them by the Honble assembly of
Parliament from February 12 to the 21 day of the same month 1641”
Edward NOWELL Esq
John HUXLEY Esq
John DEACOMB Esq
John POTTS Esq
Edward ROGERS Esq
James HUXLEY gen
Thomas SMITH gen
Reuben BOURNE gen
Jasper DRAPER gen
Richard ROGERS gen
John WILIE[?] gen [could be WIKE but probably not]
Adam FULLWARD gen
John DEE gen
John HILLYARD gen
Edward DITCHFIELD sen gen
Edward DITCHFIELD jun gen
etc etc
Dame
Melior DACKOMBE, in the County of MDX, widow, the late wife of Sir John DACOMBE
knight deceased, to be buried at the discretion of my executrix. Concerning my temporal estate which God hath
left me being but small, to my little grandchild Robert DACKOMBE £20 which is
now owing me for rent at Wormeswell in the parish of Motcombe DOR, six standing
beds, six feather beds, six bolsters, six pillows, six rugs or coverlettes, two
silk twilts, a pair of fustian blankets, four green cloth carpets whereof one
is a short one, four drawing tables, six certcubbords, two great trunks (one of
them marked with JD) six leather chairs, one elbow chair covered with velvet
and two low stools covered with velvet, ten high stools suitable to the six
leather chairs, two low turkey work stools, one long velvet window cushion,
three damask tablecloths, three damask towels, twenty one damask napkins, two
longer drap tablecloths, four drap towels, a dozen drap napkins, one pair of
holland sheets, two pair of holland pillow beares, five curtains and valance
for a bed of blue ppertaine and hangings for a chamber of stript stuff, and
this being the best and principal of all my household goods now left me, I
having been lately robbed and my house broken {margin insert: two several times
and then I am not now able to leave or give so much as otherwise I might have
done}. And if the said Robert Dackombe
die before the age of twenty one, then my household goods be equally divided
amongst my grandchildren of the female sort, I mean my daughter Dacombs
daughters, that is to say, to my executrix {margin insert: her sisters} and her
daughters or as many of them shall be living at the death of said Robert
Dackombe. If my daughter Mary DACKOMBE
the late wife of John Dackombe Esquire my only son, the mother of said Robert
my grandchild, be desirous of keeping the said goods, my will is that she give
sufficient security to restore the said goods or the value thereof to Robert at
the time aforesaid. But if my daughter
Mary Dackombe refuse to give sufficient security then my executors shall give
sufficient security. I make my loving
grandchild Melior BOONE and Edward BOONE her husband my executors, and I give
to them all my goods not before bequeathed, my debts and burial discharged and
whatsoever is left I give to the said Melior my most loving grandchild. 8 July 1644, 20 King Charles. Signed and sealed in presence of John
DEE{?}, Richard BILLADGE, {margin insert: the mark of} Dorothie DACOMBE. Proved London 16 January 1645 by Edward and
Melior BOONE
John
Dackombe Admitted Fellow Com (age 17) at Caius 4Dec1624 {B1607} son of Sir John
knt of Templecombe Somerset. Born in
London; School:Isleworth Middlesex (Mr Willis). Matric 1624. Of Edmonton
in 1649 (Venn 1.269)
24Aug1643
Lady Millier Daccomb of Edmonton assessed at £20 23Oct1643 ordered to pay £5,
the residue of her assessment 27Oct1643 note that she
shows aquittances for the whole £20
14Sep1649
Henry Neville of Cressing Temple Essex and Jno Daccombe of Edmonton Middlesex
stand bound in £400 for payment of £200;"to pay £312"
25Nov1608 Mr John son and heir of John Dackombe of the Middle Temple gent, specially, fine only 40s by request of Mr Swayne a Master of the Bench; bound with Messrs Ralf and William Freke.Also to the chamber of his father and Mr Richard Ryves in expectancy of his father
11May1632 Mr William Nevile alias Smith when he becomes a member may be admitted into Mr John Dackombe’s chamber upon his surrender
22Nov1608 John Dackombe son and heir of John Dackombe of the Middle Temple, London, gent
19Jun1632 Mr William son and heir apparent of Henry Nevile alias Smith of Cressing Temple, Essex, esq bound woth Bartholomew Hall and Ralf Freke esqs, fine 4l [£4]; also to the chamber of John Dackombe and Ralf Freke esqs on surrender by the former; fine 3l
5Nov1668
Orator Robert Dackombe of London esq…that John Dackombe knt grandfather of
orator was in his lifetime the time of his death seised of the mansion house
with rent---name of Pimmes in Edmonton;
and on or about 20Jny1617 made his last will--- Melior his wife---Pimmes
aforesaid for her life and after her decease to Sir Thos Savage, William and
Nicholas Dackombe his brothers, Henry Smith, Edward Orenge and Edward Nicholas
his executors until his son John Dackombe, father of orator, should attain
21----and the reversion thereof to John Dackombe and his heirs. John Dackombe died in the lifetime of the
said Melior and the reversion of the lands did by right descend to your
orator being his son and heir, but when Melior died (your orator being then not
above 4 years old) William Earl of Salisbury, Thos Cole and Judith his wife and
John Jolliff of Edmonton confederating together with some other persons unknown
to your orator got possession of the house---and your orator’s witnesses which
could prove the premises---are either dead or beyond the seas in parts remote
and unknown to your orator
No
reply from Salisbury
Answer
of Thomas Cole, Judith his wife and John Jolliffe---they know nothing of Sir
John---Earle leased Pimmes to Peter Tryon of Harringworth Northants gent late
husband of the defendant Judith Cole – indenture dated 6Mar1645 for £1000 and
£100 pa [John Jolliffe is a tenant of Thos Cole]