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Dr G.M.W.Mann
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16 John DACKOMBE ?c1420-c1465

m Christian c1440?

 

Only two documents are known concerning John-16:

a commission to lead men at arms to the coast in time of possible invasion

3 September 1457: Commission to array and try all men at arms and lead them to the sea coast to resist the king's enemies; to John DACCOMBE for hundreds of Tychefeld, Mannesbrugge and Farham.  [Nat.Arch.Patent Rolls 1452-1461 p400]

the will of his widow Christiana relict of John DACKOMB the elder gentleman of Chilleworthe, 1471

In the name of God amen, on the 26th day of June in the year of our lord 1471, I Christian Dackombe the relict of John Dackombe the elder gentileman of Chilleworth in the County of Southampton, being of sound mind and a healthy memory do make my will in this manner: Firstly, I leave my soul to God Almighty, to St Mary ever virgin and to all the saints   And my body to be buried in the churchyard of the chapel of Chilleworth aforesaid   Also I leave to the cathedral church of St Swithun, Winchester, 4d   Also I leave to Edmund Paterdell, five silver spoons   Also I leave to Edith my daughter one tabard [tunic?] of a crimson colour.  The true residue of all my goods not bequeathed in this will I give and leave to Sir David Taskar my curate and to William Toute in the parish of Romsey whom I do make ordain and constitute my true and lawful executors that having the eye of God upon them they will distribute the same for the health of my soul just as it shall seem best to them to be advantageous to me and pleasing to God [PROB 11/5 p26 translated form Latin]

Chilworth is about 3 miles north of Southampton and although it is not certain that the first document refers to John of Chilworth, the proximity of Chilworth to the part of coast to be protected makes this probable especially as Mannesbrugge hundred included the manor of Chilworth.  Titchfield and Fareham are about 12 miles south-east of Southampton. 

Thus John of Chilworth died between 1457 and 1471; he must have been an active and senior man to lead men at arms in 1457, so probably between 30 and 50 at this time, giving a birth date c1410/1430.  It is believed his son, John-15,  was born around 1435, so a birth date nearer 1410 than 1430 is expected.

[It is possible that John of the 1457 commission was Christiana’s son.  If he were born 1410/1420, Christiana could have been born 1390/1400 to give an age at death of 70/80.  John senior could then have been born say 1380/1390 and died at any time after the birth of his son.  But in this event, John junior could not be John of Steepleton who was born c1440.  At present it is simpler to assume that both documents above refer to the same man, and that his son was John of Steepleton].

According to “Chilworth – History of a Hampshire parish” by Jane Perry and David Wightman, (MEE publications ISBN 0952174502) John Daccombe bought the manor of Chilworth by 1373 (p24). William de Cumbe occupied the house as a tenant in 1336 (p.22).  This John cannot be John-16 who was still alive in 1457 and it seems unlikely that he was his father, since he would have been at least 21 to buy the manor in 1373, hence at least 58 at the birth of John-16. It seems more likely that he was the grandfather of John-16.

Conclusion

Provisionally, it is concluded that John-16 may have been born around 1410, possibly the grandson of John who bought the manor of Chilworth in 1373.  He married Christian around 1430.  His son John was born around 1435 (John of Steepleton) and he also had a daughter named Edith.  In 1457 he was commissioned to lead men at arms to defend the coast and he died before 1471.

 

 

Other Early Dackombe Documents

A number of documents refer to the Dackombe family in the 15th and earlier centuries, but these do not yet lead to any definite conclusions regarding the origin of the family.  A summary of known early documents follows.  

William and Thomas Dackomb - Isle of Wight

Numerous documents relating to land in the Isle of Wight held at the IoW Record Office (Oglander Collection) show the presence of a Thomas and a William Daccomb between the following dates:

1295 to 1333: Thomas Daccomb
1315 to 1361 William Daccomb

20Jun1297 inquisition post mortem held at Newport Isle of Wight (Nat Arch index 1219-1307).
 Wednesday after St John the Baptist 20 Jun 25Edw1 [1297].  Thomas son of Thomas Daccumb enfeoffed Isabel late Countess of Aumale of a messuage containing an acre of land 12 acres of arable land an acre and a rood of meadow in Caresbrooke, to receive yearly from her and her heirs for his life 2 quarters wheat, 2 qts barley.

Thomas Dackombe - Dorset Somerset

1391 Thomas Dackombe, King's escheator in Dorset and Somerset [from inquisitions post mortem held before Thomas Dackombe; an escheator collected money on behalf of the crown for escheated estates, ie estates for which there was no adult heir and which therefore passed to the crown]

1398 Thomas Dackombe Knt, sheriff of Wilts and Dorset, escheator and patron of Living of Steepleton [ref A see below]

1413/14 Thomas Daccombe, Commission of the Peace for Dorset, one of 13 for the county including two Earls and the Duke of York [Patent Rolls]

1413/1422 Thomas Daccombe commission to collect tax [from vol.5 calendar of Fine Rolls at Nat.Arch covering this date range]

These documents could refer to the same Thomas who heads the hypothetical Steepleton tree given in the notes on John Dackomb-15 giving Thomas a possible life span c1360-1430

William Dackombe - Dorset

1428 William Daccombe on jury of inq. post mortem at Shaftesbury (Som.& Dor. N&Q vol10 94)

16Sep1429 Quitclaim of John Rogger, son and heir of John Rogers of Brianeston, Dorset, William Daccombe and John Stock to the aforesaid John Rogers of Brianeston of various premises including manor of Mapledurham and many other premises.  (Hampshire Record office 57M78/E/T95) [Steepleton not mentioned. Quitclaim means that William Daccomb gave up his interest in these properties, but for what consideration is not stated.  Note connection between John-13 and Rogers of Brianeston in 1550]

9Nov1430 Westminster; Order to the Sheriff of Dorset for election of a coroner instead of William Daccombe who is dead (Nat.Arch.Calendar of Close Rolls 9 Henry VI m22) [this almost certainly refers to William Dackombe of Steepleton who died 1431 according to ref A below]

1Mar1431 Westminster, William Dacombe, Southampton, Dorset  (Nat.Arch. Calendar of Fine Rolls vol16 1413-1422)  [no indication of context, but fine rolls recorded fines levied for licences or for pardons for alienation ie transfer of land – so this probably refers to William taking the manor of Steepleton etc from his father who had just died

1434 William Dackcombe to take oath for Dorset [commision for peace?]  (Nat.Arch. Calendar of Patent Rolls 1429-1436 p382)

It seems likely that all these records refer to the William’s of Steepleton

Thomas and William Daccomb (mainly Steepleton)

Ref A: manuscript notes from JMJ Dackombe who researched the family c1900 for which the original source is not yet known:

1395 William Daccomb Vicar of Brading IoW
1398 Thomas Daccomb Knt Sheriff of Wilts and Dorset; escheator; patron of Steepleton
1398 William Daccomb installed as rector of Steepleton 6 August
1403 Robt Quarrel grants to Thomas Daccomb Esq and another all his lands at Bell (Winterbourne Quarrelstone) [near Blandford]
1420 William Daccomb patron of Steepleton
1452 William Daccomb of Steepleton, patron of living of Steepleton
1457 William Daccomb of Steepleton, patron of living of Steepleton
1461 William Daccomb died
1464 --- Daccomb patron of Steepleton
1470 William Daccomb patron of Steepleton
1505 John Daccomb Esq patron of Steepleton

William Daccomb, rector of Steepleton was probably the same man as the vicar of Brading, and no doubt related to Sir Thomas, the patron, who gave him the post.

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