Dingwall genealogy

20 May 2009

 

 

 

 

DINGWALL family tree

DINGWALL family summary

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Dr Geoffrey Mann
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3A Isabella DINGWALL c1840-?

 

 

m David SUNTER 1855

 

 

 

 

Isabella was born about 1839 in Bridgend, a village just across the Tay bridge from the city of Perth.  Her father, William, was a chairmaker, but when she was  about 9 years old, the family left Perth, living in various places until they arrived in Stirling.

 

In Stirling, Isabella’s mother died.  Isabella  was 13 and William left for Glasgow where he applied for poor relief;  Isabella was then in service (1853 aged 14) but it is not known where.

 

Isabella married David SUNTER, a cooper, at Buckhaven in Fife when she was only 16 years old.   Making a living must have been difficult, as they moved frequently.  Their first daughter was born in Leith in 1858, their next was born in England in 1863, their third was born back in Edinburgh in 1869.

 

Isabella was now 30 and she began a series of applications for poor relief in Glasgow.  Often deserted by her husband David, and just as often returning to him to be deserted again.  In 1870 David was in the fever hospital and Isabella was admitted to the poor house with two daughters, the third was being looked after in Fife

 

In 1872, a son was born in Glasgow, but the following year David left her and she was admitted to the poor house with her son; her daughters in service, or elsewhere.

 

At some time David returned, because in 1875 he “gave her a thrashing” and left her again.  Isabella returned to the poor house with her son. 

 

Again David returned, since in 1877 another son was born, this time in Dundee.  David tried his hand at selling fish, and in 1881, Isabella was with him in Kirkcaldy as a milliner.  But the following year she was back in Glasgow with her eldest son; she did not know where her daughters were.

 

The next year, 1883, she was admitted again to the Glasgow poor house with bruises after her husband gave her another thrashing and left her.

 

Deserted again by her husband in 1884 she was suffering from an abscess and admitted to hospital

 

Five years later, it was David’s turn to be admitted to the poor house with bronchitis.  Ironically, Isabella was refused admission as she was not disabled, so should work.  Released from the hospital, David deserted Isabella again, this time in Hamilton.

 

David’s bronchitis returned however, and he died in the poor house in December 1889.  He did not even know Isabella’s address, so could not know that she was admitted to the poor house with neuralgia on the very day that he died.

 

Isabella left the Glasgow poor house on 21 December 1889, free of her husband, but no further record of her life has been found.  Her eldest son was in Glasgow, her younger son was with his aunt in London.  Two daughters were in service in Bridge of Alan and in Edinburgh; the whereabouts of the other daughter unknown.

 

Daughter Jane in Edinburgh married in 1893 and stated that her mother and father were deceased.  No record of Isabella’s death however has been found.

 

 

 

 

             

   DATE    age

 

                       EVENT

     1839  

 6Jun1841  2

 9Jun1843  4

17Jun1846  7

    c1848  9

30Mar1851 12

15Jul1852 13

24Aug1853 14

10Oct1855 16

31Jul1858 19

     1861 22

    c1863 24

13Jan1869 30

25Nov1870 31

     1871 32

  Oct1872 33

 1Feb1873 34

  Oct1873 34

 3Nov1873 34

 7Jan1874 35

 9Feb1874 35

  Sep1875 36

 7Oct1875 36

    c1877 38

 3Apr1881 42

            

28Mar1882 43

23Nov1883 44

15Nov1884 45

 3Jan1889 50

21Nov1889 50

19Dec1889 50

20Dec1889 50

21Dec1889 50

           

     1893 54

born at Bridgend, Perth (parish of Kinnoul)

living with her parents at Bridgend, across the river from Perth

grandmother buried at Scone; died after her clothes caught fire

grandfather found drowned in a pond, probably suicide

moved with her parents to Auchterarder, Glendonen, Alloa, then Stirling

living with parents in Stirling

mother died

father applied for poor relief at Glasgow; Isabella in service (place unknown)

married David SUNTER at Buckhaven Fife

dau Christina SUNTER born at Yardheads Leith

census not found

dau Jane Eliza born in England (father William was also in England about this time)

dau Isabella SUNTER born at Crawfords Close, Grasmarket, Edinburgh

Glasgow poorhouse with Christine and Isabella; Jane Eliza in Fife; husband in fever hospital

census not found (Gallowgate Glasgow?)

son David SUNTER born 112 Gallowgate Glasgow

father died in city poorhouse, Glasgow, from chronic bronchitis

husband left her

27 King St; in poorhouse 4 days with son David; pain in lower extremities; Christine in service

readmitted to poorhouse with son David.  Still deserted by husband

readmitted with dau Christine and son David.  Left after 13 days

husband gave her a thrashing and left her

readmitted with son David.  All 3 daughters with aunt in Earlsferry Fife

son James SUNTER born Foundry Lane, Dundee

in Abbotshall, Kirkcaldy, with husband (a fish seller) and son David; Christina with aunt; Jane in service

in Edinburgh; Isabella and James not found

admitted to poorhouse with son David.  Husband left her. Does not know where daughters are.

admitted with lumbago and bruises.  Husband gave her a thrashing and left her.

admitted to hospital with son David, suffering from an abscess.  Husband left her 3 weeks ago.

husband admitted with bronchitis; Isabella refused admittance as not disabled so can work

applied for relief; husband left her 8 weeks ago; Isabella left before examination by doctor

husband readmitted with bronchitis; did not know his wife's address

Isabella admitted to poorhouse with neuralgia; husband died same day

left poorhouse; dau Christine servant in Bridge of Allan; dau Jane servant in Edinburgh;

son David in Glasgow, son James with the JUSTICE family in London

dau Jane married at Alloa; mother deceased

 

 

 

PRINCIPAL RECORDS

b=born  m=married  d=died

C=Christened        B=Buried

BIRTH

 

The 1841 and 51 census give a birth date of 1839/40 in Perthshire; the settlement examination of Isabel’s father in Nov 1870 states birthplace as Bridgend, Perth and age 29 (b 1841).  Bridgend is in the parish of Kinnoul where Isobel's father baptised two children in 1829 and 1831, but baptism of Isobel and other children not found in OPR so the family had probably joined a dissenting congregation by this time.  Isobel was in Bridgend in 1841 aged 2.  So definitely born Bridgend Perth about 1839.  It is believed she married in Oct 1855, so a birth date of 1839 seems established.

MARRIAGE

 

The birth certificate of Isabel’s daughter Isabella states that her parents were married at Buckhaven 10Oct1855; Buckhaven is in Wemyss parish, Fife.  However, no entry for this marriage has been found in the OPR index, nor in the General  Register of Scottish marriages nor in the Buckhaven register.  The absence of the marriage from the general register may perhaps be understood as the system of registration began only in this year.  The absence from the Buckhaven register and the OPR index, suggests that if the marriage took place at all, it was in a church other than the church of Scotland.

 

DESCENDANTS

 

31Jul1858  Christina SUNTER born at Yardheads Leith  (certificate)

    c1863  Jane Eliza born England (from census) m1893 James MACKENZIE; birth not found in GRO index Mar61-Dec65

13Jan1869  Isabella born Crawfords Close, Grasmarket, Edinburgh (certificate)

  Oct1872  David SUNTER b 112 Gallowgate Glasgow (certificate)

    c1877  James SUNTER b Foundry Lane, Dundee (from poor law examination, index of Scottish births:1875 Kilconquhar 52?)

 

certificates

b 31Jul1858 Christina d David SUNTER, cooper, & Isabella SUNTER, ms DINGWALL.  Born at 7am 37 Yardheads, Leith (South)

            informant: David SUNTER, not present (692 2/529)

 

b 13Jan1869 Isabella d David SUNTER cooper journeyman & Isabella SUNTER ms DINGWALL married 10Oct1855 Buckhaven

            Born at 4pm, Crawford's Close, Grasmarket, Edinburgh St Giles.   Informant Isabella x SUNTER, mother. (685 4/119).

 

b  4Sep1872 David SUNTER s David SUNTER, cooper jorneyman, & Isabella SUNTER ms DINGWALL married 10Oct1855 Buckhaven

            Born 2.45pm at 112 Gallowgate Glasgow; informant Isabella x SUNTER mother (Glasgow 1176)

 

m 1893 James MACKENZIE 28 gardener of Braco Perthshire, & Jane SUNTER 29 of Arnsbrae Alloa, d David SUNTER dec cooper and Isabella SUNTER

       maiden surname DINGWALL, deceased.

census

 

DEATH

 

Last record of Isabella was on 21Dec1889 when she left the poor house in Glasgow.  At the marriage of her daughter Jane in 1893, Isabella was noted as deceased.  However, her death has not been found in the index of Scottish deaths from 1889 through 1897, nor English deaths Dec1889 through Dec1894

 

CENSUS

1841 Kinnoul, Perthshire, Village of Bridgend Book 1

 

William    DINGWALL           35  1806    wright                                  n

Christian  DINGWALL           35  1806                                            y

Christian  DINGWALL           8   1833                                            y

Margaret   DINGWALL           6   1835                                            y

Helen      DINGWALL           5   1836                                            y

Isabella   DINGWALL           2   1839                                            y

 

1851 Stirling, village of St Ninians psh 373 enum dist 17 p13

 

Willm      DINGWELL    he mar 44  1807    rustic chair maker                              Renfrewshire

Christain  DINGWELL    wi mar 44  1807                                                    Renfrewshire

Christan   DINGWELL    da unm 19  1832                                                    Perthshire

Isabella   DINGWELL    da unm 11  1840                                                    Perthshire

Mary       DINGWELL    da unm 6   1845                                                    Perthshire

 

1861 Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, Lichfield St

 

David     SUNTER  he mar 31  1830  cooper   Scotland

Isabella  SUNTER  wi mar 21  1840           Scotland

Christina SUNTER  da      2  1859           Scotland

Jane E    SUNTER  da      7m 1860           Burton Staffordshire

1871 not found

not at Crawfords Close Edinburgh

1881 Fife, Abbotshall, 146 Links St 442/30 p3

 

David      SUNTER      he mar 50  1831    fish cadger [note cadger=hawker]                Earlsferry, Fife

Isabella   SUNTER      wi mar 39  1842    milliner                                        Perthshire

David      SUNTER      so     8   1873                                                    Glasgow

1881 Edinburgh, 41 Gt King St 685-2/81/17

 

Jane E.H.  SUNTER      se unm 19  1862    nursemaid           England          [head of household Hugh BROWN]

1881 Kilconquhar High St, Fife,436/1 p6

 

Christian    BOWIE       he unm 81  1800                       Kilconquhar

Christina    SUNTER      ni unm 22  1859                       Leith, Edinburgh

David Sunter HASTIE      gn     1   1880     gn=greatnephew    Earlsferry

1891 not found

1891 Alloa, Arnsbrae House 465/10/2

 

Jane       SUNTER      se unm 27  1864    serving maid          England

 

 

OTHER

POOR LAW RECORDS of Isabella SUNTER (DINGWALL)

 

The poor law records of Glasgow are an amazingly rich source for chronicling the detailed lives of our poorer ancestors.  On applying for relief, an interview was conducted often at the pauper's home. The interview was to determine whether the applicant qualified for relief, and to detemine the pauper's parish of settlement. The pauper would either be sent back to this parish, or relief would be given and the cost charged to the parish of settlement.

 

Application records therefore often contain a potted history of the applicants life, including parents and children and details of places lived, to determine whether the pauper qualified for relief, whether there were any children or parents who could support him or her, and which parish should pay for the relief if granted.   The following account of the life of Isabella SUNTER (formerly DINGWALL) from 1870 to 1889 is reconstructed form these records.  They tell their own story,

 

This is the story of Isabella SUNTER (ms DINGWALL) as told by the poor relief records

 

25 Nov 1870.  husband David admitted to the fever hospital. Isabella went to the night asylum and applied for relief. She was admitted to the poorhouse with her daughters Christine (12) and Isabella (2).  Her other daughter Jane Eliza was in Fife.

 

Kilconquhar ordered her to the Thornton poorhouse, but allowed to remain in Glasgow if the charge is the same; when she left on 29 December she went to Aidrie for 4 months before returning to Glasgow.  Her son David was born at 112 Gallowgate on 4 Sep 1872

 

3 Nov 1873. Applied for relief from 27 King St. Husband left her 3 weeks ago. Destitute with pain in lower extremities. Admitted with son David.  Daughter Christine now in service.. Left after 4 days.

 

7 Jan 1874.  Readmitted to poorhouse.  Still deserted by husband; son David had eruptions on belly and back.

 

9 Feb 1874.  Readmitted with daughter Christine 13 and son David 14 months.  Left after 13 days

 

7 Oct 1875.  Readmitted with son David.  Husband left her 3 weeks ago in Lanark after giving her a thrashing.   All 3 daughters now with aunt in Earlsferry, Fife.

 

Over the next seven years Isabella was in Dundee, Earlsferry, Edinburgh and Kirkcaldy. In 1877, James was born in Foundry Lane, Dundee; in 1879 she was sent to Thornton Union poorhouse by Kirkcaldy. In 1882 she was back in Glasgow.

 

28 Mar 1882.  Admitted to poorhouse with son David.  Husband left her in Glasgow and is now in Hamilton.  Does not know where daughters are.

 

23 Nov 1883.  Admitted with lumbago and bruises.  Husband gave her a thrashing in Cumbernauld and left her.  Christina and James in Fife, Jane Eliza in Edinburgh, David with his father.

 

15 Nov 1884 admitted to hospital with son David, suffering from an abscess.  Husband left her 3 weeks ago.

 

3 Jan 1889.   Isabella's husband David applied for relief, suffering from bronchitis and disease of the bladder. Kilconquhar wrote that he should be sent to Thornton Union poorhouse, but objected to Isabella going with him, as she was not disabled so could work for her own maintenance.

 

21 Nov 1889. Isabella applied for relief from Leigh Kirk Close on stair.  Husband left her in Hamilton 8 weeks ago, but she left the Application Hall before the Doctor saw her.

 

19 Dec 1889. Husband David was readmitted to the poorhouse with bronchitis. He did not know his wife's address.  Son David was in Glasgow, Christina a servant in Bridge of Allan, Jane Elizabeth a servant with Mr JENNINGS, Queensferry Place, Edinburgh, James with his aunt in London.

 

20 Dec 1889. Isabella was admitted to the poorhouse with neuralgia on the same day that her husband died there.

 

26 Dec 1889.  Letter from Kilconquhar instructing Glasgow to send them both to Dysart poorhouse.  But David was already dead and Isabella left at her own request the following day.

 

 

 

 

 

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