Dingwall genealogy

19 April 2009

 

 

 

 

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Dr Geoffrey Mann
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5 Roderick DINGWALL 1773-1846

 


spouse's records

m Helen BAIN 1802

 

 

 

 

Roderick was born in 1773 in Beladrum in the parish of Kiltarlity near Inverness.  He left his home town as a young man and married Helen Bain in Glasgow in 1802.  Roderick was then a wright (carpenter)

 

Four sons were born in Glasgow but the first two died young.  The family then moved to Perthshire in 1807 or 08 where Roderick was employed as a carpenter by the Earl of Mansfield.  The new Scone Palace was completed in 1808 and possibly Roderick obtained his position as completion of the Palace became urgent.

 

Roderick and Helen had a further twelve children.  The first two were baptised at Scone, the village close to the Palace, but between 1812 and 1826, Roderick and Helen lived at Bridgend.  This village is just across the river from the City of Perth but still only two miles from Scone palace.  They baptised all but one of their children at Kinnoul church which is in Bridgend. 

 

In 1827, their eldest son William married and, like his father, became a wright at Bridgend.  Perhaps because of this, Roderick and Helen moved back to New Scone where their last two children were baptised.  Roderick remained a carpenter for the Earl of Mansfield until his death.

 

In 1843 however, Helen aged 65 died after her clothes caught fire.  Roderick moved down the hill to Old Scone, and three years later, drowned in a nearby pond.  He was 73 and it was said that he was despondent since the death of his wife and probably took his own life.  He was buried in Greyfriars cemetery, Perth.

 

 

C=Christened

 

           age

   DATE   RD HB

 

                       EVENT

 8Aug1773     

 7Jun1802 29 24

21Feb1803 30 25

 2Apr1804 31 26

15Jun1805 32 27

 7Jan1807 34 29

    ?1808 35 30

29Feb1809 36 31

 1Feb1811 38 33

20Dec1812 39 34

19Jan1813 40 35

20Oct1816 43 38

20Jun1820 47 42

27May1822 49 44

28Mar1824 51 46

20Mar1826 53 48

 1Aug1827 54 49

21Mar1829 56 51

11Jul1830 57 52

 6Jun1841 67 62

 9Jun1843 70 65

17Jun1846 73  

Roderick baptised at Kiltarlity, son of Thomas

married Helen BAIN at Glasgow

son William born Glasgow; Roderick a wright; William BAIN a witness

son Thomas born Glasgow; Roderick a wright

son William born Glasgow; Roderick a wright

son Thomas  born Glasgow; Roderick a wright

moved to  Perth; Rod. employed as a carpenter by Earl of Mansfield

son Ebenezer C at Scone

son George  C at Scone

son James  C at Kinnoul; died young?

son Thomas  C at Kinnoul

dau Margaret C at Kinnoul

son James C at Kinnoul

son Roderick C at Perth

son David born;  C 11Apr1824 at Kinnoul

twin sons Benjamin and Joseph C at Kinnoul

son William married at Scone

son Isaac C at Scone

dau Mary  C at Scone

in Scone village with Joseph and Mary; Roderick was a wright

Helen of New Scone died after her clothes caught fire; buried at Scone

Roderick of Old Scone found drowned in a pond, probably suicide; buried in Greyfriars cemetery

 

 

 

PRINCIPAL RECORDS

b=born  m=married  d=died

C=Christened        B=Buried

BIRTH

 

Roderick’s burial record gives a birth between Jun1771 and Jun1772 in Ross-shire; the 41 census does not appear to have been rounded down and gives a birth date between Apr1773 and Apr1774 outwith Perth; the agreement is good and suggests a birth about 1772/3 in Ross-shire.  There is however no suitable baptism in the OPR index, and only 3 between 1760 and 1785 in all Scotland:

 

C 16Jul1761 s John DINGWALL Kiltearn, Ross And Cromarty

C 19Jne1778 s Alexander DINGWALL & Margaret FRASER Kiltarlity, Inverness

C  5Oct1781 s John DINGWALL, Fodderty, Ross And Cromarty

 

there is however a baptism at a suitable date of Rory DINGWALL at Kiltarlity, Inverness:

 

C  8Aug1773 Rory s Thomas DINGWALL in Milltown of Balladrum; w:John DINGWALL, Alex{?} McDONALD in Rivalking

 

this is interesting because the date is right, Kiltarlity is close to Ross border, and Thomas was the name of Roderick's second son.  The first son was named William, but it seems likely that William was named after his wife's father as a William BAIN was a witness to William's baptism.  The entry in the Kiltarlity register is undoubtedly Rory, not Rodk, but Rory and Roderick are considered equivalent names in the Sasine register index for Invernesss.   Moreover, Thomas’ father was named Roderick (see Thomas Dingwall-6).   The place of Roderick's birth in the burial register would probably have been given by Roderick's son, who may not have known exact place of birth, or it was assumed to be near Dingwall in Ross-shire. 

 

Thomas also had a son John in 1780 which supports the proposition that he was the father of Roderick.  A John Dingwall married Jean Taylor at Fintry in 1803, and a relationship with this family is highly probable because one of the grandchildren of John & Jean moved to London and gave a home to the husband of one of Rodericks grand-daughters when he was also in London.  (see tree T-5)

 

On the other hand, there are several parishes nearby where DINGWALL is a common surname (eg Dingwall, Fodderty, Urquhart & Logie Wester and Tain in Ross; Inverness in Inverness) and Roderick/Rory is a not uncommon forename.  Almost certainly Roderick comes from this part of the world; circumstantial evidence is strong that Kiltarlity is the correct baptism, but further confirmation is desirable.

 

MARRIAGE

 

William-4 was baptised 1805 in Glasgow, son of Roderick and Helen BAIN; there is a suitable m in the Glasgow OPR

 

m7Jun1802 Roderick DINGWALL wright in Glasgow, and Helen BAIN residenter there

          by Mr John McKENZIE minister of the New Gaelic Church in Glasgow

 

DESCENDANTS

 

The OPR for Glasgow on film at SOG, appears to be a combined chronological copy of C in all the city parishes though the actual parish is not stated;  the following entries were found: no other C in OPR index for Lanark:

 

b 21Feb1803 William  s Roderick DINGWALL & Helen BAIN, wright, w: Hugh INNES, William BAIN

b  5Apr1804 Thomas   s Roderick DINGWALL & Helen BAIN, wright, w: Agnes McPHERSON, John REID

b 15Jun1805 William  s Roderick DINGWALL & Helen BAIN, wright, w: Hugh INNES, Alexander ROSS

b  7Jan1807 Thomas   s Roderick DINGWALL & Helen BAIN, wright, w: Hugh INNES, Alexander ROSS

 

from Scone/Kinnoul/Perth registers:

                                                                                                                     parish

C 30Feb1809 Ebenezer  s Roderick DINGWALL wright in Scone       & Helen BAIN {entered in register on 15May1809}      Scone

C 21Feb1811 George    s Roderick DINGWALL wright in Scone       & Helen BAIN {entered in register on 4Mar1811}       Scone

C 20Dec1812 James     s Roderick DINGWALL wright in Bridgend    & Helen BAYNE his wife;   b  6Dec1812                Kinnoul

C 19Jan1813 Thomas    s Roderick DINGWALL wright in Bridgend    & Helen BAYNE his wife;   b  6Jan1813                Kinnoul

C 20Oct1816 Margaret  d Roderick DINGWALL wright in Bridgend    & Helen BAYNE his wife;   b 12Oct1816                Kinnoul

C 20Jun1820 James     s Roderick DINGWALL wright in Bridgend    & Helen BAYNE his wife;   b 21May1820                Kinnoul

C 27May1822 Roderick  s Roderick DINGWALL wright in West Church & Helen BAYNE his spouse; b 12May1822                Perth

C 11Apr1824 David     s Roderick DINGWALL wright in Bridgend    & Helen BAYNE his wife;   b 28Mar1824                Kinnoul

C 20Mar1826 Joseph and Benjamin  twin s Roderick DINGWALL, wright in Bridgend & Helen BAYNE his wife                 Kinnoul

C 21Mar1829 Isaac     s Roderick DINGWALL wright in New Scone   & Helen BAIN his wife;    b  6Mar1829                Scone

C 13Jul1830 Mary      d Roderick DINGWALL wright in New Scone   & Helen BAIN his wife;    b 11Jul1830                Scone

 

son William stated in settlement examination (see William DINGWALL-4) that he was born in Glasgow but moved to Perth as an infant; this confirms that all above are to same parents

 

m 17Dec1855 David DINGWALL 31 residing Pathhead, bookseller, second marriage, 2 children living, 1 child deceased;

b Bridgend Perth son of Roderick DINGALL carpenter & Helen BAIN
& Janet LENNIE age 41, residing Pathhead, teacher, spinster, b Edinburgh; dau of Lawrence LENNIE cabinet maker, Mary TAYLOR
at Pathhead, according to the laws of the Free Church of Scotland, James Black minister;Wit: Richard GOLDIE, John T. LENNIE

DEATH

from Scone parish register:

B  9Jun1843 Mrs DINGWELL New Scone, burnt, mortcloths charged/paid: 0/0

B 17Jun1846 Roderick DINGWELL Old Scone, drowned, morthcloths: Perth

from Greyfriars, Perth, burial register:

d 21Jun1846 B 24Jun1846 Roderick DINGWALL wright born Rossshire died Old Scone 74 years drowned

from Perthshire Courier Thursday 5Jun1843

Woman Burned.  On Friday afternoon last week, a respectable woman and mother of a family, residing in New Scone, accidentally slipped a foot and fell over the fire, and before she could recover herself her clothes became ignited and in a few seconds she was in a blaze from head to foot.  Her cries brought the neighbours to her assistance who succeeded in extinguishing the flames, but not before the poor woman was so dreadfully burned that she had to be immediately conveyed to the Perth Infirmary where we hear little hopes are entertained for her recovery

from Perthshire Courier 25Jun1846

"Death by drowning".  Early on Sunday morning an elderly man, who had been in the employment of the Earl of Mansfield, as a carpenter, for more than thirty five years, was found in a pond or lake near Old Balbughty.  It is not exactly known how he came by his death, but as he was in a desponding way, and he had been ever since the death of his wife, by her clothes taking fire, about two years ago, suspicions are entertained that it was his own act.

 

CENSUS

1841 Scone Village, Perthshire parish 394a; vol 8 p12

 

Roderick   DINGWALL           67  1773    wright                   N

Ellen      DINGWALL           52  1788                             N

Joseph     DINGWALL           13  1827                             Y

Mary       DINGWALL           7   1833                             Y

 

Roderick and Ellen m in 1802, so Ellen's age unlikely to be correct; last child Mary was actually born in 1830; so Ellen probably born about1784 giving age 46 when Mary was born and age 18 at marriage

 

 

 

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