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Dr G.M.W.Mann.      Baytrees

Burnhams Rd,    Lt.Bookham

Surrey, U.K.           KT23 3AU

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6 Anna HALLEY 1722-?

1m William THOMSON 1742;  2m Patrick BAYNE 1748

 

 

 

Anna HALLEY was born in the parish of Fowlis Wester, but baptised in the nearby church of Madderty.  Her father, John HALLEY was living at a farm called Upper Gorthy (possibly now known as Newton of Gorthy).

 

When she was 20 she married William THOMSON and moved to her husband's parish of Methven about 5 miles away.  William however was executed (hanged?) only eight months later for murdering his brother David from Edinburgh.

 

Anne remained in Methven until she re-married Patrick BAIN from her home parish of Fowlis and moved back to a farm called Fornought in Fowlis, only about half a mile from where she was born. 

 

No baptisms were recorded at Fowlis until ten years after their marriage.  They then baptised four children at Fowlis Wester between 1758 and 1764 while they were living at a Fornought, close to Fowlis village.  No further records are known.

 

 

 

 

EVENTS

C=Christened

 

           age

   DATE   AH PB

 

                       EVENT

20May1722     

25Nov1742 20  

  Jul1743 21  

22May1748 26 20

29May1748 26 20

 5Jun1748 26 20

 2Apl1758 36 30

23Mch1760 38 32

 4Apl1762 40 34

 8Apl1764 42 36

Ann C at Madderty, daughter of John HALLY in Upper Gorthy, Fowlis Wester

m William_THOMSON of Methven at Fowlis Wester

William THOMSON executed for murdering his brother David coming from Edinburgh

1st proclamation of m at Methven to Patrick BAYNE of Fowlis

2nd proclamation of m at Methven

3rd proclamation (and marriage?) at Methven

dau Amelia C at Fowlis Wester; living at Fornaught

dau Marjory C at Fowlis Wester; living at Fornaught

son Patrick C at Fowlis Wester; living at Fornaught

dau Anna C at Fowlis Wester; living at Fornaught

 

 

 

 

 

 

PRINCIPAL RECORDS

 

 

b=born  m=married  d=died

C=Christened       B=Buried

 

BIRTH

 

Anna HALLEY married Patrick BAIN of Fowlis Wester at Methven in 1748, but there is no suitable baptism in the Methven register.  Baptisms at nearby parishes from the OPR index for Perth include the following:

 

Blackford         b 21Oct1717  dau John HALY  & Margaret_GOW C at Muthill Episcopal

Madderty          C  8Mch1719  dau James HALY & Janet_RIDDOCH in Burnead

Madderty          C 20May1722  dau John HALLY

Fowlis Wester     C 20May1722  dau John HALLY in Upper Gorthy, C at Madderty

Crieff            C 28Aug1726  dau James HALLY

Madderty          C 19Jul1727  dau James HALY & Ann_BOGUE  in Craig

 

Fowlis Wester is adjacent to Methven and since Ann married Patrick from Fowlis and settled in Fornought, which lies next to the Upper Gorthy region of Fowlis (the farm may now be called Newton of Gorthy, only half a mile from Fornought), there is a strong presumption that the Fowlis/Madderty baptism is the correct Anne.

 

However, the Fowlis register has this Anne probably married to William THOMSON of Methven in 1848; crucially however, the Fowlis register notes that William was executed the following year for murder.  Probably therefore, Anne moved to her husbands parish of Methven, and stayed there after his death, though there are no THOMSON children recorded at Methven and no poor payments to Ann in the Methven sessions.  This would be because as a single young woman with no dependants she would have to earn her own living.

 

Since Scottish wives retain their maiden name, it is probable that this is the Anne HALLEY of Methven who married Patrick BAIN 5 years later and returned to her place of birth.  There are however other suitable baptisms of Ann HALLEY in nearby parishes and these cannot be entirely excluded since none of them appear to have married in their home parish.

 

There are no records of children baptised to Anna and Patrick at Fowlis Wester or elsewhere in the OPR index until 10 years after their marriage.  This makes the episcopal connection at Blackford (Muthill) look interesting.  Perhaps the first children were C in an episcopal church?

 

MARRIAGE

 

Anna_BAIN-5 was baptised at Fowlis Wester in 1764, the daughter of Patrick BAINE and Anna HALLEY.  The baptism is preceded by a marriage in the neighbouring parish of Methven:

from Methven register

22May1748 Patr BAYNE in the parish of Fowlis and Ann HALY in this parish proclaimed in order to marriage 1

29May1748 BAYNE & HALY proclaimed 2

 5Jun1748 BAYNE & HALY proclaimed 3

 

There is no other suitable m of these parents in the OPR index and since Patrick was of Fowlis there is little doubt that this is the correct marriage.

 

However there is an earlier marriage of an Ann HALLEY in the Fowlis Wester register:

from Fowlis Wester register:

m 25Nov1742 William_THOMSON of Methven & Anne HALY otp; he was executed July following for murdering his brother David coming from Edinburgh

 

for reasons discussed above, it is believed that this refers to the same Ann HALLEY

 

DESCENDANTS

 

No C to Patrick BAIN and anna HALLEY are found in the OPR index until the following at Fowlis Wester:

from Fowlis Wester register:

C  2Apr1758 Amelia d Patrick BAINE in Fornaught

C 23Mar1760 Marjory d Patrick BAINE in Fornaught

C  4Apr1762 Patrick s Patrick BAINE & Anna_HALLEY his spouse; in Fornaught

C  8Apr1764 Anna d Patrick BAINE & Anna_HALLEY his spouse; in Fornaught

 

The first of these baptisms is some 10 years after the marriage of Patrick and Anna was proclaimed and it is possible that up to 3 or 4 children may have been born in the period 1748-58 and either died before baptism or the record has been lost.  The only C to Peter or Patrick BAIN in the OPR index in this period are at Dunblane: James 1747, Mary 1749, Catharine 1751, Patrick 1753, Colin 1755.  Since James was baptised before the m and Dunblane is some way from Fowlis it seems very unlikely that these are relevant.  The Fowlis register is not defective in the relevant period but the Methven register seems missing 1752 to 1758 (though the OPR index has some entries); however, the period 1748 to 52 at Methven was searched but no C to Patrick found.

 

Two BAIN m at Fowlis occur at the right time for the BAIN spouse to have been born in this period:

 

m 23Apr1773 John BAIN otp & Margaret_HENDRIE otp               [bc1750?]

m 21Nov1779 John_WILSON otp & Catherine BAYNE otp  proclaimed  [bc1755?]

 

It is considered more likely however that John BAIN was the son of Patrick & Isabel (C1728 Fowlis son of Patrick) because John & Margaret used these names for their children even though this implies an age at marriage of 45 (see family tree T0)  There are possible parents for Catharine in nearby parishes: (John & Ann of Blackford C John 1760, Cath 1758; John & Janet of Monzie C John 1749, Cath 1759).  The mystery remains unsolved of the 10 year gap between the marriage of Patrick and Anna and the baptism of their first known child.  Also why was she called Amelia?  The name persists through following generations, but this is the first known occurrence.

 

DEATH

 

no informatiom

 

 

 

 

 

 

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