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21 December 2009

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1 Herbert Henry MANN 1887-1958

 

 

1m Elsie F WHENT 1912   2m Amy J BLEWETT 1928

 

 

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Herbert Henry (Bert) was born at Elim Cottage, Shoebury, his grandfather’s house, but by 1891 his parents were living in Cambridge Cottages, Ness Rd. HH left school at 12 and became a carpenter like his father. He married Elsie Whent in 1912, but then served in the Fleet Air Arm during the war, stationed at Killingholme airfield on the Humber Estuary. His wife contracted cancer, but he was not allowed leave to be with her when she died in Oct 1918 at the home of HH's parents, Aintree, Church Rd. The next year, he emigrated to Canada, working as a carpenter on logging sites near Vancouver.

 

HH returned from Canada after 18 months to help his father who had now established his own building firm. He met his second wife at the Pleasant Rd Methodist Church and they married in 1928 at Thorpe Bay, where Amy was living at Kynance on the sea front, built by H.H.Mann & Sons. They moved to a newly built house "Wendon" in Church Rd Shoeburyness, where 4 children were born. The firm prospered in the 1930s building many houses in Shoebury, such as Herbert Rd, Caulfield Rd, Ulster Avenue. He told me that one year, the firm made £7000 profit (equivalent to about £220,000 in 2000) enough to run two cars and employ a gardener and handyman/chauffeur.

 

The last road, Ulster Avenue, however was only half built when the second war began. The houses had been built for rent using money borrowed from a Building Society; all building stopped during the war, and many people left the area. With no rent coming in, the loans created a problem and houses were sold whenever possible at very low proces. H.H served as an air raid warden in the war, and the firm survived with a few older men doing war damage repairs.

 

Little building was possible in the years after the war; Robin was working in the firm, but decided to become a Methodist Minister, while I went to University. With no one to take over, the firm was sold for whatever terms could be had. The change in his fortunes, left him embittered and many considered him a difficult man. As a child however, I remember him quite differently, playing games, and rough and tumbles with his children. He played golf and bowls and I believe he was very intelligent, despite his lack of education. He and Amy moved next door to "Aintree" 35 Church Rd after the death of his brother and sister, and he died from a heart attack in 1958 aged 70

 

 

           age

   DATE   NM HA

 

EVENT

 7Oct1887   

 5Apr1891  3

19Aug1892  4

31Mar1901 13

28Nov1901 14

26Jun1912 24 

12Aug1916 28 

 4Nov1916 28 

 1Jan1918 30 

 2Oct1918 30 

26Feb1919 31 

23May1919 31 

              

11Nov1920 32

18Mar1922 34  

 3Nov1926 39 27

    c1927 39 28

13Jul1928 40 29

31Oct1930 43 31

30Mar1932 44 33

14May1935 47 36

     1939 51 40

    c1942 54 43

25Aug1953 65 54

     1953 65 54

    c1955 67 56

31Mar1955 67 56

13May1958 70 59

20Nov1987    88

HH born at Elim Cottages, South Shoebury

HH at 4 Cambridge Cottages Shoebury with parents, brother and sister

brother Harold Robin MANN died aged 10m

with family at “Aintree” West Rd, Shoeburyness (on corner with Church Rd)

apprenticed as a carpenter to Harris & Rowe Ltd for 4 years

HH m Elsie Florence WHENT at St Andrews Rd Methodist chapel, Shoebury

HH enlisted in Fleet Air Arm; basic training at Crystal Palace until 3Nov1916

moved to Fleet Air Arm base at Killingbourne on R.Humber estuary

promoted to air mechanic class 1

Elsie Florence died of cancer at the Mann home, Aintree, Church Rd

discharged from RAF medical category A

HH sailed from Liverpool to Canada on "S.S.Megantic" to work as carpenter

building logger's cabins near Vancouver

arrived in London on SS Corsican from Montreal

HH's mother died;

HH & AJ married at Christ Church, Thorpe Bay

moved to new house 'Wendon' Church Rd, Shoeburyness, Essex

son Herbert Henry Robin born at 'Wendon'

son Geoffrey Michael Wilfrid born at 'Wendon'

son David Brian Dudley born at 'Wendon'

dau Rosemary Jessie born at 'Wendon'

AJ and children evacuated to Ashbourne Derbyshire; HH an air raid warden in Shoebury

AJ and children returned

sister Dora died next door at 35 Church Rd

moved next door into 35 Church Rd; Wendon (no.33) given as a Methodist manse

HH sold building firm

HH made last will, everything to AJ

HH died at General Hospital Rochford from coronary thrombosis

AJ died at Southend Hospital

 

 

 

PRINCIPAL RECORDS

 

b=born  m=married  d=died

C=Christened        B=Buried

BIRTH

certificate

 

Herbert Henry MANN boy b 7Oct1887 at Elim Cottages, South Shoebury

f: Herbert Henry MANN, carpenter; m: Lavinia Jessie MANN formerly SMITHERS

r 15Nov1887 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by Herbert Henry MANN, father, of Elim Cottages, South Shoebury,

 

baptised by Presbyterian Army Chaplain (in Shoebury Garrison?); baptismal certificate:

C 20Nov1887 Shoeburyness b 7Oct1887 Shoeburyness, Herbert Henry,  son of Herbert Henry, carpenter & Jessie MANN

 

MARRIAGE

1 certificate:

 

m 26Jun1912 at Shoeburyness ESS Primitive Methodist School Chapel, St Andrews Rd

Herbert Henry MANN bch, 24, builder of "Aintree" Church Rd, Shoeburyness &

Elsie Florence WHENT spr, 24, of Sea View Rd, Shoeburyness

f: Herbert Henry MANN, builder; George WHENT, grocer and butcher; w: George WHENT, Wilfrid MANN

2 certificate:

 

m 3Nov1926 at Thorpe Bay, ESS Christ Church parish church of Southchurch by licence

Herbert Henry MANN wdr, 39, builder of "Aintree" Church Rd, Shoeburyness

Amy Janet BLEWETT spr, 27, of "Kynance" Eastern Esplanade, Thorpe Bay

f: Herbert Henry MANN, builder; Henry Michael BLEWETT, merchant;

wit: H L DUNLOP, H M BLEWETT, P.V.L.WA--PS

 

DESCENDANTS

 

b 13Jul1928 Herbert Henry Robin  at “Wendon” Church Rd Shoeburyness

b 31Oct1930 Geoffrey Michael Wilfrid          

b 30Mar1932 David Brian Dudley                

b 14May1935 Rosemary Jessie                   

certificates:

 

Herbert Henry Robin MANN boy b 13Jul1928 at Wendon, Church Rd, Shoeburyness

f: H H MANN, builder (house); m: Amy Janet MANN formerly BLEWETT

r 14Sep1928 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by H H MANN, father, of Wendon, Church Rd Shoeburyness

 

Geoffrey Michael Wilfrid MANN boy b 31Oct1930 at Wendon, Church Rd, Shoeburyness

f: H H MANN, house builder (master); m: Amy Janet MANN formerly BLEWETT

r 11Dec1930 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by H H MANN, father, of Wendon, Church Rd Shoeburyness,

 

DEATH

certificates:

 

d 2Oct1918 Elsie Florence MANN female 31, wife of Herbert Henry MANN, mechanic, Royal Air Force,

                   at Aintree, Church Rd, Shoeburyness of carcinoma

r    4Oct1918 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by Geo WHENT, father, of 44 Sea View Rd, Shoeburyness pad

 

 

d 13May1958 Herbert Henry MANN male 70, master builder retired, of 35 Church Rd, Shoeburyness,

                      at General Hospital Rochford from coronary thrombosis

r 14May1958 at Rochford, ESS by A.J MANN, widow of deceased, of 35 Church Rd, Shoeburyness

 

 

d 20Nov1987 Amy Janet MANN female, b 11Mar1899 at Leyton, Waltham Forest, of 35 Church Rd, Shoeburyness,

                      at Rochford Hospital from carcinoma, widow of Herbert Henry MANN, builder

r 23Nov1987 Southend-on-Sea, ESS by Herbert Henry Robin MANN, son, 1 Oberon Place, Hartford, Huntingdon, Cambs

will of Herbert Henry Mann

 

signed 31 March 1955; died 13 May 1958; £15,809  Everything to wife Amy

Janet Mann; if she pre-deceases me then £750 to daughter Rosemary; £750 to son Robin; all personal effects

to Robin to divide between children as he thinks fit; all property equally divided between children.

 

CENSUS

 

1891 South Shoebury ESS, 4 Cambridge Cottages RG12/1394 f88

 

Herbert H  MANN        he mar 29  1861    carpenter            Sutton, ESS

Lavinia J  MANN        wi mar 26  1864                         Mile End, London

Herbert H  MANN        so     3   1887                         Shoeburyness

Dora J     MANN        da     2   1889                         Shoeburyness

Wilfred    MANN        so     11m 1890                         Shoeburyness

 

1901 Shoeburyness ESS, Aintree, West Rd  RG13/1686 f26

 

Herbert H     MANN     he mar 39 1862     carpenter         worker                        Sutton, ESS

Jessie L      MANN     wi mar 36 1865                                                     London

Herbert H     MANN     so     13 1888                                                     Shoeburyness ESS

Dora J        MANN     da     12 1889                                                     Shoeburyness ESS

Wiilfred      MANN     so     10 1891                                                     Shoeburyness ESS

Elizabeth E   FINCH    bo sin 29 1872     nurse domestic                                  Shoreham Sussex

Aphra J       TYNDALL  bo sin 17 1884                                                     Ireland

Muriel B L    TYNDALL  bo     15 1886                                                     Ascension Island    W.African colony[?]

George H      TYNDALL  bo      7                                                          Gosport

Madeline M    TYNDALL  bo      4                                                          Gosport

Katherine a H TYNDALL  bo      2                                                          Southsea

 

 

OTHER

 

Apprenticeship

[abstract of original hand-written document]

 

This Indenture made the 28th day of November 1901 between Herbert Henry Mann of Aintree West Rd Shoeburyness, carpenter and joiner, Herbert Henry Mann of the same place,his son and Harris & Rowe Ltd of Rampart St Shoeburyness, builders and contractors.   The said HHMann with the consent of his father doth puit and bind himself Apprentice to Harris and Rowe Ltd to learn the art or trade of a Carpenter and Joiner until the end of four years  ……   and by way of wages, the sum of 1 penny per hour during the first year, 2 pence the second year, 3 pence the third year and 4 pence per hour the last year

 

signed H.H.Mann, H.H.Mann, in the presence of Mr Ansell, Rampart St, Shoeburyness;  A.J.Harris Director, George R Rowe Secretary

 

WW1 Naval Air record (ADM 188/598 F19112)

 

Herbert Henry MANN; b 7Oct1887 at Shoeburyness; carpenter

engaged 12Aug1916; age F.E.; height 5'10"; chest 37; hair brown; eyes grey; complexion fresh;

passed Educt P.O. Oct1917; discharged to RAF

 

ship                             no.     rank                              conduct  ability

 

President II (Crystal Palace)  19557   acting a.m.i.(c) 12Aug1916-3Nov1916   VG;  satisfactory

          (Killingbourne)                             4Nov1916-           VG;      supr.

                 "                      a.m.i.         1Jan1818-31Mar1818  VG       supr

RAF record (AIR79/1973 219112)

 

 4Jun1918  transferred from Killingholme  to 209 T.D.S. (air mechanic 1 from 1Jan1918; widower)

28Jan1919 209 T.D.S Purfleet

26Feb1919  transferred to RAF reserve; medical category A

30Apr1920  deemed discharged