Mansfield Manfield genealogy

8 October 2006

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Dr G.M.W.Mann.      Baytrees

Burnhams Rd,    Lt.Bookham

Surrey, U.K.           KT23 3AU

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3 Francis (Frank) MANSFIELD 1854-1933

 

 

m Frances Rebecca YOUNG 1877

 

 

 

 

 

Francis Mansfield was born in 1854 in the heart of Bethnal Green where his father and grandfather were wheelwrights.  His parents moved shortly after, down the road to Shoreditch where Francis was baptized on the same day as his older brother James.

 

Frank enlisted as a boy in the Navy when he was 16, the consent form signed by his mother.    He joined HMS Fisguard at Woolwich as a boy, committed for ten years service commencing at age 18.  However, he did not complete this term of service and returned to Bethnal Green where he followed family tradition by becoming a wheelwright.  Shortly after, he married Frances YOUNG at Kirtlington in Oxfordshire.  Probably they met after Frances had left her home village to work in Bethnal Green,

 

At the time of their marriage in 1877, Frances' father James was a carman at Mape St Bethnal Green and by 1881, Frances had taken over the business and was now a master carman, ie one who owned the carriages driven by others.  Three children were born at 7 Mape St, but their only son, Frank, died young.  In 1888, the carman's yard was transferred from Mape St to Seabright St and operated continuously for 20 years until 1901.

 

Family tradition has it that Frank’s business was eventually ruined by his wife's addiction to drink.  The carman's trade however was increasingly competitive at this time and facing competition from buses and this probably played a significant role in the end of Frank’s business.  The family moved briefly to Walthamstow where Frank continued as a cab-driver, and then to Camden Town where Francis returned to his old trade of wheelwright, and daughter Alice was married.

 

Francis remained in Camden Town until his wife died in 1925, when he moved to Manor Park to live with his daughter Alice, visiting his other daughter Helena every Sunday for lunch.  He remained there until he died in 1933.

 

Frank’s granddaughter Nellie SHORT remembered him as a tall upright man, with fair hair, always impeccably dressed (though his Naval record shows he was only 5’2” at the age of 16).  He was scarred on his face when the cab horse he was riding, bolted and went into a tram.  When living at Manor Park, he had his own downstairs room, and seemed a happy man, often singing, playing cards, and a musical instrument in Coverdale Church Band; he told exciting stories from his time at sea  (he was said to have brought home a hand of bananas when nobody knew what they were, and was said to have been followed by a coloured girl with a parrot claiming to be his wife – but these stories more likely apply to his brother James.

 

 

 

 

 

EVENTS

 

 

           age

   DATE   FM RY

 

                       EVENT

15Jun1854     

17Jul1854     

 3Apr1861  6  

16May1870 16  

 2Apr1871 16  

15Feb1873 18  

          ??

18Apr1877 23 21

31Jul1879 25 23

c    1880 26 24

 3Apr1881 26 24

c    1884 29 27

     1888 33 31

 5Apr1891 36 34

c    1900 45 43

31Mar1901 46 44

c    1902 47 45

21Dec1902 47 45

     1903 48 46

16Dec1925 70 69

c    1926 71  

27Aug1933 79  

Frank born at 4 Holybush Place; parents James, a wheelwright, and Mary Ann

Frank christened at St Leonards Shoreditch; father a wheelwright at 40 Holywell Lane

census: at 36 Wilmot St, Bethnal Green with family

enlisted in the Navy as a boy on HMS Fisguard at Woolwich (mother signed consent form)

census not found

ten year Naval service  commenced

?released from Navy

married at Kirtlington; Frank was a wheelwright of Bethnal Green

dau Alice born at 7 Mape St; Frank was a carman

son Frank born

census: at 7 Mape St with 2 children; Frank a master carman

dau Helena born

first listed in PO directory as carman at 1a Seabright St, Bethnal Green Rd

Frank, a master carman, at 1½ Seabright St with wife, two daughters and Francis' sister from Kirtlington

gave up carman’s business and moved to Walthamstow

Frank was a cab-driver at Walthamstow, living with wife and two daughters

moved to Camden Town

dau Alice married at Camden Town; Frank was a wheelwright

Frank listed in PO directory as wheelwright at Kings Place, King St, Camden Town

wife Frances of 18 Hawley Crescent St Pancras died at 199 Dartmouth Park Hill from stroke

Frank went to live with daughter Alice at 49 Durham Rd Manor Park

Frank, of 49 Durham Rd, died at Central Home Leytonstone

 

 

 

PRINCIPAL RECORDS

 

 

b=born  m=married  d=died

C=Christened      B=Buried

 

BIRTH

 

From census marriage and death certificates, Francis was born c1854 in Bethnal Green son of James.  This is sufficient to identify the following certificate and baptism at Shoreditch St Leonards

 

b 15Jun1854 Francis, boy, at 4 Holybush Place; father: James MANSFIELD, wheelwright; mother: Mary_Ann MANSFIELD formerly NEWMAN

r 26Jul1854 at Church, Bethnal Green, MDX by Mary_Ann MANSFIELD, mother, of 4 Holybush Place, Bethnal_Green

 

C 17Jul1854 b 11Jun1854 Francis s James & Mary_Ann MANSFIELD, 40 Holywell Lane, wheelwright; at Shoreditch St.Leonards

 

note difference between christening address and birth/registration address, though the baptism took place between birth and registration; almost certainly the explanation is that Holybush Place was home; the father’s wheelwright's business was in Holywell Lane

 

on enlistment in the Navy, Francis gave his birthdate as 15Feb1855; difficult to explain as this made him appear younger than he was; did the first Francis die and replaced by  a second Francis?

 

MARRIAGE

certificate:

 

Francis MANSFIELD bch 23, wheelwright of Bethnal_Green & Frances_Rebecca YOUNG spr 21 of Kirtlington

fathers: James MANSFIELD, carman; Thomas YOUNG, mason; witness: Benjamin_YOUNG; Martha_x_YOUNG

m 18Jun1877 at St Mary's Kirtlington OXF after banns

 

DESCENDANTS

 

b 31Jul879 Alice (certificate)

b     1880 Frank (from census) said to have died young

b   2q1884 Helena reg at Bethnal Green [known as Milly according to daughter Florence]; m Lionel SALMON who was killed in WW1

 

no christenings found; family story is of 8 children, only 2 surviving - Alice and Helena

 

b 31Jul1879 Alice MANSFIELD girl at 7 Mape St; f:Francis MANSFIELD carman; m: Frances Rebecca MANSFIELD formerly YOUNG

r 10Sep1879 at Church, Bethnal Green, MDX by F R MANSFIELD mother of 7 Mape St Bethnal Green

 

DEATH

certificates:

 

d 16Dec1925 Frances Rebecca MANSFIELD female age 69, of 18 Hawley Crescent, St.Pancras, wife of Francis MANSFIELD wheelwright

            at 199 Dartmouth Park Hill from cerebral haemorrhage

r 17Dec1925 by Helena SALMON daughter of 111 Fortess Rd, St.Pancras at North St.Pancras, LND

 

d 27Aug1933 Francis MANSFIELD male age 79, formerly wheelwright of 49 Durham Rd, East Ham

            at Central Home, Leytonstone from cystitis and carcinoma

r 28Aug1933 by T.W.SHORT son-in-law of 49 Durham Rd, Manor Park at South Leyton, West Ham, ESX

 

CENSUS

 

1861 36 Wilmot St, Bethnal Green RG9/258 f 35

 

James      MANSFIELD   he mar 32  1828    wheelwright                                     Bethnal Green

Mary Ann   MANSFIELD   wi mar 31  1829                                                    Bethnal Green

Deborah    MANSFIELD   da     10  1850                                                    Bethnal Green

James      MANSFIELD   so     8   1852                                                    Bethnal Green

Francis    MANSFIELD   so     6   1854                                                    Bethnal Green

 

1881 7 Mape St Bethnal Green RG11/425 f75 p8

 

Frank      MANSFIELD   he mar 26  1854    master carman                                   Bethnal Green

Frances    MANSFIELD   wi mar 24  1856                                                    Kirtlington OXF

George     MANSFIELD   br     12  1868    scholar                                         Bethnal Green

Alice      MANSFIELD   da     2   1878                                                    Bethnal Green

Frank      MANSFIELD   so     1   1879                                                    Bethnal Green

John       WILLOUGHBY  lo unm 22  1858    ostler                                          Whitechapel

 

1891 Bethnal Green, 1½ Seabright St,   RG12/265/12 f 88

 

Francis    MANSFIELD   he mar 37  1854    cab proprietor (groom); employer                Bethnal Green

Frances    MANSFIELD   wi mar 35  1856                                                    Kirtlington OXF

Alice      MANSFIELD   da     11  1880    scholar                                         Bethnal Green

Helena     MANSFIELD   da     9   1882    scholar                                         Bethnal Green

Martha     BADSEY      vi mar 47  1844    dressmaker                                      Forest Hill OXF; neither

John       HARRIS      he mar 56  1835    fishmonger; neither                             Bethnal Green

Sarah      HARRIS      wi mar 48  1843                                                    Carfew {Corfu?} British subject

Agnes E    CONEY       sd sin 21  1870    general servant domestic  sd=stepdaughter       Shoreditch

 

Mansfield family had 4 rooms occupied; Harris family had 2 rooms

NOTE: Martha BADSEY (nee YOUNG) was a sister of Frances

 

1901 Walthamstow Essex, 115 Clacton Rd   RG13/1623 f 41

 

Francis MANSFIELD he mar 46 1855 cab driver                   worker     London, Bethnal Green

Frances MANSFIELD wi mar 44 1857                                         Oxford, Kirtlington

Alice   MANSFIELD da sin 21 1880                                         London, Bethnal Green

Helena  MANSFIELD da sin 17 1884 upholsterer (trimming)       worker     London, Bethnal Green

 

next to: Charles 25 & Annie HOWARD 23 and son, carpenter, b New Chesterton, Cambs

also   : Maria HOMIG 56 b Germany and 2 children Arthur 27, Anna 15, both b London

 

OTHER

Naval Records at PRO

 

from ADM 139/1025   (index of names)

 

                   born  CS no.  ship enlisted

James MANSFIELD    1852  8441B   Fisgard          FE(=first engagement)

Frances MANSFIELD  1855 11859B   Fisgard          FE

 

[CS=Continuous Service]

 

from ADM 139/919  (Continuous Service Record)

 

Francis MANSFIELD born Bethnal Green MDX 15Feb1855

height: 5’2¼”

complexion: fair

hair: dark brown

eyes: grey

marks: none

 

enlisted HMS Fisgard no.267 16May1870;  boy 2nd class

engagement commenced 15Feb1873 for 10 years

 

certified fit by John MacDonald staff surgeon [the printed words on the form include: “a well-grown stout lad of perfectly sound and healthy constitution, free from all physical malformation, and intelligent”]

 

signed Francis MANSFIELD

witness T,J[?]Tanner  N.Schoolmaster

 

Parents Consent Form signed by Mary Ann MANSFIELD and Francis MANSFIELD 13May1870 at Woolwich

 

in margin:  height 5’2¼”   chest: 30¼”

 

 

Mary Ann, James and Francis Mansfield all signed with a good handwriting

 

 

Kelly PO Directory:

 

Frank MANSFIELD 1881 no entry

Frank MANSFIELD 1889,1894,1897,1902 carman at 1a Seabright St, Bethnal Green Rd

Frank MANSFIELD 1903 wheelwright at Kings Place, King St, Camden Town

Frank MANSFIELD 1905 no entry

 

 

 

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