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26 July 2009

 

 

 

 

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5 Edward NEWMAN c1800-c1870?

 


spouse's records

m Deborah HARRIS 1823

 

 

 

 

Edward was probably born around 1797 in the Battle Bridge (now Kings Cross) area of London.  When he was 26 he married Deborah HARRIS at Holborn; neither of them could sign their name.  Edward was a labourer near Battle Bridge and they baptised three children at the parish church of St Pancras before moving to Bethnal Green. 

 

Here, Edward became a dust collector or scavenger, probably taking his collections back to Battle Bridge which was a collecting area for dust.  He must have done well from his trade, as they baptised thirteen more children in Bethnal Green between 1831 and 1851 and all their children survived childhood.

 

For at least 20 years Edward and Deborah lived in Duke St, Bethnal Green. Deborah died there in 1867 but no record has been found of Edward’s death.

 

 

C=Christened

 

           age

   DATE   EN DH

 

                       EVENT

c    1797     

30Nov1823 26 18

 8Sep1824 27 19

 7Sep1825 28 20

29Jul1827 30 22

19Jul1829 32 24

 2Jan1831 34 26

 6Sep1832 35 27

 9Apr1834 37 29

15Nov1835 38 30

21Apr1837 40 32

12Aug1838 41 33

 7Sep1839 42 34

 8Apr1841 44 36

 6Jun1841 44 36

18Oct1842 45 37

24May1844 47 39

 5Dec1845 48 40

30Mar1851 54 46

11Oct1851 54 46

 3Apr1861 64 56

20Aug1867 70 62

Edward born at Battle Bridge?

Edward & Deborah married at Holborn St Andrew; both signed with x

son John Edward born C 26Sep St Pancras Old Church      Ed labourer of Battle Bridge

dau Martha born             C 25Sep St Pancras Old Church     Ed labourer of Weller St

son Edward                     C at         St Pancras Old Church      Ed labourer of Willer Place

dau Mary Ann C. at Stepney St Dunstan                          Ed carman of Bethnal Green

dau Elizabeth born C 30Jan Shoreditch St Leonard    Ed scavenger of Old Cock Lane

dau Sarah born C 30Sep Bethnal Green St Matthew   Ed scavenger of Gibraltar Walk

son George born C 27Apr                "                                                Ed scavenger of Gibraltar Walk

dau Deborah born C  6Dec             "                                 Ed scavenger of Turk St

son James born C 28May               "                                 Ed scavenger of Turk St

son William born C  2Sep               "                                 Ed contractor of Tyson St

son Thomas Henry born C 29Sep "                                Ed scavenger of Tyson St

dau Eliza born C  2May                     "                                Ed scavenger of New St

census: Ed and Deb with 11 children at Duke St         Ed scavenger

dau Emma born C  6Nov Bethnal Green St Matthew   Ed contractor of Duke St

dau Caroline born C 16Jun           "                                  Ed scavenger of Duke St

dau Jane born C 26Jan1846 Shoreditch St Leonard  Ed contractor of Turk St

census; Ed and Deb with 11 children at 2 Duke St      Ed contractor for dust

son Charles Alfred born C 2Nov Shoreditch St Leonard             Ed dust-contractor of New Inn Yard

census: Ed & Deb with 4 children at 2 Duke St             Ed a contractor for dust

Deborah died at 2 Duke St

 

 

PRINCIPAL RECORDS

b=born  m=married  d=died

C=Christened        B=Buried

BIRTH

 

Census records indicate that Edward was born between 1795 and 1800 either in Bethnal Green (1851) or Battle Bridge (1861). The 1861 census seems more reliable as it gives the correct birthplace for Deborah whereas the 1851 merely repeats Bethnal Green for every member of the family.  Battle Bridge was the area subsequently occupied by Kings Cross station where dustcarts emptied their refuse.  Since Edward was later a dust collector and moreover baptised his first three children at St Pancras, the parish church for Battle Bridge, it seems certain that Edward was either born in this area or spent his early years there.  However no suitable baptism has been found at St Pancras neither have any suitable NEWMAN families been found there.  In nearby St Mary Islington, William & Mary NEWMAN baptised children from 1799 to 1809 including Edwin:

 

C 26May1805 B 12Mar1805 Edwin      s William  & Mary NEWMAN

 

This is rather late by the census ages but needs further investigation.  No evidence for a non-conformist background in view of the baptism of all Edward's children in parish churches.  There is a family story that his wife Deborah was Jewish, but this has proved to be incorrect.  It leaves the possibility that it was Edward who was Jewish rather than his wife, but no suitable Edward NEWMAN/NEUMANN was found in a database of London Jews.  Another possibility is that Edward was born elsewhere but moved to Battles Bridge when young.  The London IGI has the following possible Edwards:

 

C   Nov1792 s Samuel  & Sarah NEWMAN    at Whitechapel St Mary

C 27Oct1799 s Edward  & Lydia NEWMAN    at Shoreditch St Leonards

C 18Mar1801 s William & Sarah NEWMAN    at Chelsea St Luke

C 17Oct1802 s Edward  & Susannah NEWMAN at St Giles Cripplegate

 

William & Ann NEWMAN baptised Emma Letitia at St Matthew Bethnal Green in 1837 while living in Turk St - the same street as Edward at that time.  Possibly William was a brother.

 

MARRIAGE

 

Census records show that Edward's wife was named Deborah and that their eldest surviving child was born about 1825.  Birth certificates show that Deborah's maiden name was HARRIS; this identifies the following marriage at Holborn St Andrew

 

m 30Nov1823 Edward x NEWMAN otp & Deborah x HARRIS otp by banns

witness: Henry x HARRIS; Frances x CARRINGTON

 

DESCENDANTS

from various parish registers:

 

                 born     Christened       church             occupation       address

 

John Edward     8Sep1824  26Sep1824 St Pancras Old Church     labourer        Battle Bridge

Martha          7Sep1825  25Sep1825     "                         "           Weller St

Edward                    29Jul1827     "                         "           Willer Place

Mary Ann                  19Jul1829 Stepney St Dunstan        carman          Bethnal Green

Elizabeth       2Jan1831  30Jan1831 Shoreditch St Leonard     scavenger       Old Cock Lane

Sarah           6Sep1832  30Sep1832 Bethnal Green St Matthew  scavenger       Gibraltar Walk

George          9Apr1834  27Apr1834     "                         "               "

Deborah        15Nov1835   6Dec1835     "                         "           Turk St

James          21Apr1837  28May1837     "                         "               "

William        12Aug1838   2Sep1838     "                     contractor      Tyson St

Thomas Henry    7Sep1839  29Sep1839     "                     scavenger           "

Eliza           8Apr1841   2May1841     "                         "           New St

Emma           18Oct1842   6Nov1842     "                     contractor      Duke St

Caroline       24May1844  16Jun1844     "                     scavenger           "

Jane            5Dec1845  26Jan1846 Shoreditch St Leonard     contractor      Turk St

Charles Alfred 11Oct1851   2Nov1851     "                     dust-contractor New Inn Yard

certificates:

 

b  8Apr1841 Eliza  girl at 2 Duke Street Turk Street; fa: Edward NEWMAN scavenger; mo: Deborah NEWMAN formerly HARRIS

r  4May1841 by Deborah x NEWMAN mother, of 2 Duke Street Turk Street at Town, Bethnal Green, MDX

 

b 24May1844 Caroline  girl at 2 Duke Street Turk Street; fa: Edward NEWMAN dust contractor; m: Deborah NEWMAN formerly HARRIS

r 22Jun1844 by Deborah x NEWMAN mother, of 2 Duke Street Turk Street at Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, MDX

DEATH

certificate

 

d 20Aug1867 Deborah NEWMAN female at 2 Duke Street age 62 [b 1805] wife of Edward NEWMAN dust contractor; cause: senile decay

r 24Aug1867 at Town, Bethnal Green by M MANSFIELD of 1 Mape St, present at death,

 

Edward was aged 63 in the 1861 census but has not been found in 1871.  No death certificate has yet been found. The Edward NEWMAN who died in Apr1881 in Islington made a will which shows that he is not the right Edward.

CENSUS

1841 Duke St Bethnal Green HO107/694/12 f24

 

Edward     NEWMAN             45  1795    scavenger                        y

Deborah    NEWMAN             35  1805                                     n

John       NEWMAN             15  1825                                     y

Edward     NEWMAN             14  1826                                     y

Mary       NEWMAN             12  1828                                     y

Elizabeth  NEWMAN             11  1829                                     y

Sarah      NEWMAN             9   1831                                     y

George     NEWMAN             6   1834                                     y

Deborah    NEWMAN             5   1835                                     y

James      NEWMAN             4   1836                                     y

William    NEWMAN             3   1837                                     y

Thomas     NEWMAN             2   1838                                     y

Eliza      NEWMAN             2m  1841                                     y

 

1851 2 Duke St, Bethnal Green HO107/1542 f645

 

Edward     NEWMAN      he mar 50  1800    contractor for dust              Bethnal Green MDX

Deborah    NEWMAN      wi mar 45  1805                                     Bethnal Green MDX

Elizabeth  NEWMAN      da unm 20  1830    needlewoman                      Bethnal Green MDX

Sarah      NEWMAN      da unm 18  1832    home                             Bethnal Green MDX

George     NEWMAN      so     16  1834    home                             Bethnal Green MDX

Deborah    NEWMAN      da     14  1836    scholar                          Bethnal Green MDX

James      NEWMAN      so     13  1837    scholar                          Bethnal Green MDX

William    NEWMAN      so     11  1839    scholar                          Bethnal Green MDX

Thomas     NEWMAN      so     10  1840    scholar                          Bethnal Green MDX

Eliza      NEWMAN      da     9   1841    scholar                          Bethnal Green MDX

Emma       NEWMAN      da     8   1842    scholar                          Bethnal Green MDX

Caroline   NEWMAN      da     6   1844    scholar                          Bethnal Green MDX

Jane       NEWMAN      da     5   1845    scholar                                         Bethnal Green MDX

1861 2 Duke St, Bethnal Green RG9/263 f150

 

Edward     NEWMAN      he mar 63  1797    dust contractor                 Battle Bridge MDX

Deborah    NEWMAN      wi mar 55  1805                                    Walworth SRY

Eliza      NEWMAN      da unm 19  1841                                    Bethnal Green MDX

Caroline   NEWMAN      da unm 16  1844                                    Bethnal Green MDX

Jane       NEWMAN      da unm 15  1845                                    Bethnal Green MDX

Charles A  NEWMAN      so     9   1851                                    Bethnal Green MDX

 

1871 not found in census index

 

 

 

 

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