Short Genealogy

7 October 2006

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Dr G.M.W.Mann.      Baytrees

Burnhams Rd,    Lt.Bookham

Surrey, U.K.           KT23 3AU

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2 Thomas William SHORT 1878-1961

 

 

m Alice MANSFIELD 1902

 

 

 

 

Thomas was born in 1878 in Bethnal Green where his parents managed an oil and colour shop.  He followed his father into the trade occupying various addresses in Bethnal Green.

 

Shortly after marrying Alice MANSFIELD, he became a manager of a shop in Salmon Lane market, Stepney.  The shop, like his father's, was one of a chain owned by a Mr Williams.  Six children were born while the family lived over the shop.  Thomas joined the army about 1916 and served on the Western Front as a sapper while Alice looked after the shop and the children. 

 

After the war, Thomas continued as manager of the shop until about 1922 when the chain of shops closed.  Thomas and Alice moved to Manor Park with their family, living in a house owned by Thomas' brother Samuel.  At this time he worked in a tobacconist shop in Leman Street.  The house was bombed in the second world war and Thomas and Alice moved to Dover Rd, Wanstead to live in their daughter Rose's house.  Alice died of pneumonia in 1961 and Thomas died of the same cause just four months later, aged 82

 

Tom was a gentle likeable man, devoted to his wife Alice who was a much more forceful character.  As manager of the shop in Salmon Lane, he was a respected local figure, well educated, and always willing to help.  A story is told that in the early days of the 1914-18 war, a riot took place in the Lane against a German-owned shop but Tom was able to lead the family to safety around the back.  he played the clarinet in a church band.  I knew him when he was living at Dover Rd where he seemed content with life, and he passed on his chess set to me.

 

 

 

 

EVENTS

 

           age

   DATE   TS AM

 

 

                       EVENT

 1Jul1878      

28Jul1878      

 3Apr1881  2   

 5Apr1891 12  

31Mar1901 22

21Dec1902 24 23

   c.1904 26 25

28Sep1904 26 25

   2q1905 27 26

12Jul1906 28 27

21Dec1908 30 29

16Nov1910 32 31

11Jul1912 34 33

 1Aug1914 36 35

   c.1916 38 37

   c.1922 44 43

   c.1944 66 65

15Feb1961 82 81

15Jun1961 82  

born at 50 New York St; parents Thomas William, manager of oilshop, and Frances ("Fanny")

christened at St Matthew Bethnal Green; parents at 50 York Place

living with parents at 6 Allas Rd

a scholar living with parents at 66 Armagh Rd Bow

with family at 25 Cardigan Rd, Bow; Thomas was a general shopkeeper

mar Alice MANSFIELD at Camden Town; Thomas an oilman at 18 Archer St

Thos becomes manager of William's oilshop in Salmon Lane? (1st entry in PO directory for Williams shop)

son Thomas Frank born

son Thomas Frank died

dau Alice Frances born

dau Nellie Deborah born at Dixon St, Limehouse; Thos an oilmans manager

dau Rose Margaret born at 148a Salmon Lane; Thos an oilmans manager

son Ernest George born

dau Ivy Ethel born

Thos joined army and served on front in France as sapper (RSC?)

oilshop closed (last entry of oilshop in PO directory), moved to 49 Durham Rd Manor Park owned by brother Sam

bombed out of home in Manor Park, moved to daughter Rose's house in Dover Rd Wanstead

Alice died in Whipps Cross Hospital of pneumonia

Thomas died in Whipps Cross Hospital of pneumonia

 

 

PRINCIPAL RECORDS

b=born  m=married  d=died

C=Christened       B=Buried

BIRTH

certificate

 

b 1Jul1878 Thomas William  boy at 50 New York St

f: Thomas William SHORT oilman's assistant; m: Frances Martha SHORT formerly KILBOURN

r 7Aug1878 at Church, Bethnal Green MDX by T.W SHORT father of 50 New York St, Bethnal Green

from Bethnal Green St Matthew register:

 

C 28Jul1878 b 1Jul1878 Thomas William, s Thomas William & Frances Martha, oilman, 50 York Place at St Matthew, Bethnal Green

 

MARRIAGE

certificate

 

m 21Dec1902 at Camden Town parish church after banns

Thomas William SHORT bch 24 oilman, 18 Archer St & Alice MANSFIELD spr 23, 28 Georgiana St

f: Thomas William SHORT oilman, Francis MANSFIELD wheelwright; wit: Samuel SHORT, Helena MANSFIELD

 

DESCENDANTS

 

b 28Sep1904 Thomas Frank; died 2q1905 (GRO index) meningitis?

b 12Jul1906 Alice Frances; m W.PROUT; d c.1974

b 21Dec1908 Nellie Deborah at 22 Dixon St, Limehouse

b 16Nov1910 Rose Margaret at 148a Salmon Lane; m Arthur FRENCH

b 11Jul1912 Ernest George m Gladys WINDOW (data from dau Gillian)

b  1Aug1914 Ivy Ethel (school record); m A.SAUNDERS

certificates

 

b 25Oct1904 Thomas Frank SHORT; r 25Oct904 at Limehouse, Stepney (short certificate)

 

b 21Dec1908 Nellie Deborah girl at 22 Dixon St; f: Thomas William SHORT, oilman's manager; m: Alice SHORT formerly MANSFIELD

r 28Jan1909 at Limehouse, Stepney LND by T.W SHORT father, of 22 Dixon St, Limehouse

 

b 16Nov1910 Rose Margaret SHORT girl at 148a Salmon Lane; f: Thomas William SHORT oilmans manager; m: Alice SHORT formerly MANSFIELD

r 21Dec1910 at Limehouse, Stepney by T.W SHORT father of 148a Salmon Lane

 

DEATH

certificates

d 15Feb1961 Alice SHORT age 81 of 5 Dover Rd Wanstead, wife of Thomas William SHORT shop manager retired

                    at Whipps Cross Hospital Leytonstone, of broncho-pneumonia

r 16Feb1961 at Forest, Essex South Western, by R.M.FRENCH, daughter, of 5 Dover Rd, E12

 

d 12Jun1961 Thomas William SHORT age 82 of 5 Dover Rd Wanstead, oil and colour merchants manager (retired)

                    at Whipps Cross Hospital Leytonstone of broncho-pneumonia

r 13Jun1961 at Forest, Essex South Western by R M FRENCH, daughter, of 5 Dover Rd E12

 

 

CENSUS

 

1881 6 Allars Rd, Bethnal Green RG11/480 f 46 p19

 

Thomas      SHORT       he mar 26  1855    oil & colormans asst.            Bethnal Green

Fanny       SHORT       wi mar 31  1850                                     Bethnal Green

Thomas      SHORT       so     2   1879                                     Bethnal Green

Samuel      SHORT       so     1   1880                                     Bethnal Green

Samuel      KILBOURNE   he wdr 58  1823    labourer dock                    Spitalfields

Elizabeth A KILBOURNE   da unm 21  1860    boot binder                      Bethnal Green

Mary Ann    KILBOURNE   da unm 19  1862    boot binder                      Bethnal Green

at same address:

Phoebe      CRONEY      he wid 64  1817    boxmaker shell                   St Luke's

 

NOTE:should be Allas Rd; Fanny SHORT was Samuel KILBOURN's daughter

 

1991 66 Armagh Rd, Bow RG12/315 f 67 dist.11

 

Thomas     SHORT       he mar 36  1855    oilmans manager; color; employed  Bethnal Green

Frances M  SHORT       wi mar 41  1850                                      Bethnal Green

Thomas     SHORT       so     12  1879    scholar                           Bethnal Green

Samuel     SHORT       so     11  1880    scholar                           Bethnal Green

William    SHORT       so     9   1882    scholar                           Mile End

Sidney     SHORT       so     6   1885    scholar                           Old Ford

Frances B  SHORT       da     1   1890                                      Old Ford

Henry      HOPTROUGH   bo sin 21  1870    oilman assistant, color           Portsmouth, Hants

Frederick  SPENCER     bo sin 23  1868    oilman assistant, color           South Hackney, LND

 

1901   25 Cardigan Rd, St Mary Stratford, Bow, Poplar  RG13/340  f 106

 

Thomas       SHORT he mar 45 1856   oil & color manager           worker       LND Bethnal Green

Frances      SHORT wi mar 51 1850                                                     LND Bethnal Green

Samuel       SHORT so sin 21 1880   oilmans (color) assistant     worker       LND Bethnal Green

Thomas       SHORT so sin 22 1879   general shopkeeper            own acct     LND Bethnal Green

William      SHORT so sin 19 1882   oilmans (color) assistant     worker       LND Mile End

Sidney       SHORT so sin 16 1885   oilmans (color) assistant     worker       LND Old Ford

Frances      SHORT da sin 11 1890                                               LND Old Ford

Georgina     SHORT se sin 14 1887   general servant               worker       ESS Tidal Basin

 

next to Wolf & Rosa EIGELES and brother; job dealer shop; all born Austria

 

 

OTHER

Kelly's PO Directory

 

161 Salmon Lane

 

1903         Ray Charles

1904 - 1910  Samuel Williams & Sons

1911         no entry

 

148a Salmon Lane

 

1910         coffee rooms

1911 - 1922  Samuel Williams & Sons

1923         Thos Tennant Williams

1926         no entry