Short Genealogy

20 August 2006

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Dr G.M.W.Mann.      Baytrees

Burnhams Rd,    Lt.Bookham

Surrey, U.K.           KT23 3AU

geoff.mann@btinternet.com

 

 

 

 

 

9 Thomas SHORT ?c1660->1700

 

 

m Jane WALBECK 1686

 

 

 

 

THOMAS was probably born around 1660, but his baptism has not been identified.  He became a weaver and married Jane WALBECK at Allhallows London Wall in 1686

 

Thomas and Jane baptised six children at Stepney St Dunstan between 1687 and 1701.  During this time they lived at various address incuding Pettycoat Lane in 1691.

 

 

 

EVENTS

 

           age

   DATE   TS JW

 

                       EVENT

?   c1660     

 7Jul1686 26  

18Mar1687 27  

21Feb1689 29  

 6Dec1691 31  

20Nov1694 34  

15Dec1697 37  

19Jun1701 41  

Thomas born

Thomas SHORT & Jane WALBECK m at Allhallows London Wall

dau Martha baptised at St Dunstan; Thomas a weaver at Nicholas St

dau Elizabeth born; baptised at St Dunstan 16 days later; Thomas a weaver at Phenix St

son Thomas baptised at St Dunstan; Thomas a weaver at Pettycoat Lane

son William born; baptised at St Dunstan 12 days later; Thomas a weaver at Pellam St

dau Jane born; baptised at St Dunstan the next day; Thomas a weaver at Pellam St

dau Rebecca baptised at St Dunstan

 

 

PRINCIPAL RECORDS

                                                                                                                                            b=born  m=married  d=died

                                                                                                                                            C=Christened       B=Buried

BIRTH

 

The known baptisms of Thomas-9's children occurred between 1687 and 1697.  It is probable therefore that he was born between 1650 and 1670 but could be earlier.  Possible baptisms from the London IGI are:

 

C  6Oct1633 s Thomas & Ellen, St Dunstan                    54/64 yrs at C of children

C  8May1649 s Dudlea & Susanna, Allhallows Honey Lane,      38/48

C 27May1652 s Ringen & Elizabeth, St Dunstan                35/45

C  3Aug1656 s Peter & Bridgett, St Mary Abchurch            31/41

C 21Sep1666 s Leonard & Mary, St Bartholomew the Gt         21/31

C 26Sep1669 s Tho & Susan, St Giles Cripplegate             18/28

C 26Oct1677 s Tho & Susan, St Giles Cripplegate             10/20

 

only the Ringen entry examined so far along with one other Ringen SHORT found in IGI:

 

C 10Mar1650 Jane d Ringing SHORT of Kingstreet, mariner, & Elizabeth uxor, 7 days

C 27May1652 Thomas s Ringen ?HORT of Foxes Lane mariner & Elizabeth uxor, 1 day

 

Writing in register is very clear except for initial letter of SHORT in 1652; no other Ringen found in IGI; possibly a foreign mariner with a name anglicised to SHORT?  St Dunstan m index 1568-1696 had no Ringen marriage

 

No obvious choice at present; the Thomas/Ellen baptism looks interesting, as there could be a generation missed in the interregnum; IGI has one other C to them: C23Aug1635 Jonathon at St Dunstan.  The Thomas/Susan baptism can probably be eliminated as the first child Thomas probably died before the baptism of a second Thomas in 1677.

 

The Hearth Tax for Tower Hamlets (undated c1670) lists a Thomas SHORTE with 9 hearths at Christopher Alley.  This number of hearths indicates a relatively wealthy man so perhaps not a young one; maybe he is the Thomas married to Ellen aged around 60; alternatively he may be the son of Thomas & Ellen baptised in 1633 so aged about 40 in the hearth tax list and possibly the father of Thomas-9

 

Boyd’s Inhabitants of London lists a Thomas SHORT, citizen and clothworker, with a son Thomas   The reference is to a 1669 PCC will, 63, but the parish is St Saviours Southwark.  The will has not yet been examined

 

MARRIAGE

 

It is presently assumed that Thomas-8 was baptised at St Dunstan in 1691, son of Thomas, weaver of Pettycoat Lane and Jane. Other baptisms to Thomas and Jane have been found starting in 1687, no suitable m of Thomas & Jane found in St Dunstan m index, but there is one suitable m in IGI:

 

m  7Jul1686 Thomas SHORT & Jane WALBECK at Allhallows London Wall

 

the name and date suggests that this is the correct marriage, but the register has not yet been examined

 

DESCENDANTS

other children of Thomas & Jane christened at St Dunstan:

 

C 18Mar1687 Martha    d Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Nicholas St, ? days old

C  9Mar1689 Elizabeth d Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Phenix St, 16? days old

C  6Dec1691 Thomas    s Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Pettycoat Lane, weaver ? days old

C  2Dec1694 William   s Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Pellam St, 12 days old

C 16Dec1697 Jane      d Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Pellam St, 1 day

C 19Jun1701 Rebecca   d Thomas & Jane SHORT [from IGI only]

 

these all found from IGI and checked on original register except for Rebecca; no St.Dunstan C index for this period

 

DEATH

 

not found;     too many burials at St Dunstan to search for Thomas or Jane and ages at burial not given until 1811

 

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