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Dr G.M.W.Mann. Baytrees Burnhams Rd, Lt.Bookham Surrey, U.K. KT23 3AU |
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9 John SMITH c1675-1754
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m Jane
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b=born m=married d=died
C=Christened B=Buried
John-9's
children were born from about 1700 and he died in 1754. His birth date cannot therefore be much
earlier or later than about 1675, but no information is known. He was buried in a quaker burial ground so
probably not baptised in a parish church.
There is a baptism of John in 18Mar1673 at Gt.Waltham, but he was the
son of the vicar, Benjamin SMITH and his wife Abigail – definitely not a
non-conformist
John-8 was
born around 1700, son of John & Jane.
There is only one suitable John/Jane m in Essex Boyd at Brentwood, but
examination of the Brentwood register shows they were both from Horndon:
m 3Oct1695 John SMITH single of East
Horndon & Jane BEERMAN single of West Horndon
the
Horndon registers have not yet been examined to see whether any children were
baptised there, but a move to Waltham seems unlikely
Although
no baptisms have been found, six descendants are known from wills and other
information (see John-8). Possible
birth dates can be estimated from age at marriage or death:
John
1700; known to be eldest brother
of Peter
Abraham 1702; m 1724 (age 21+); named next after John in Peter's will
Thomas
1704; probably mar 1733, so born
before 1712; probably bur 1782 age 80 so bc1702 but listed after Abraham in
Peter's will
Jane
1705; m1724 with parents
consent, so probably between 18 and 20 at m
Mary
1707; m1728 (age 21?)
Peter
1709; bur 1784 age 75
m 14Apr1724 Samuel JOSLIN of Felsted &
Jane SMITH of Waltham Magna declared intention to marry;
consent of parents by verbal declaration of Jno SMITH
of Waltham Magna and Jane his wife
(Thaxted Quakers)
m
9May1724 Samuel JOSLING & Jane SMITH at Thaxted (IGI)
lic
1724 Abraham SMITH of Waltham Magna & Judith SKINNER wid bond: Christopher LEACH
m 25Aug1724 Abraham SMITH & Judith
SKINNER by licence at Gt.Waltham
m 18Aug1728 Thomas PETTIT of Chicknall son
of Thomas PETTIT of Feering & Mary SMITH da of Jno SMITH of Waltham MAGNA;
relations: John SMITH, Jane SMITH, John SMITH jun,
Joseph SMITH, Samuel JOSCELIN, Jane JOSCELIN (Thaxted Quakers)
will 1748 Thomas
PETTIT of Broomfield, farmer s 3Apr1748 p 29Oct1753... I appoint my brother-in-law Peter SMITH of
Lt.Waltham malster, executor. [ERO 171
BR 24]
Related witnesses to
Mary's wedding are all accounted for except Joseph who may perhaps be another
son. If so he was not mentioned in
Peter's 1784 will, so could have died unmarried before 1784. There is a burial of Joseph at Lt.W in 1780
with no added information; no suitable quaker burial found.
An interesting possibility is that he might be the quaker Joseph, yeoman of Gt.Waltham whose children were born between 1710 and 1722. However Joseph is almost certainly the son of Henry & Abigail of Felsted, whose son John was born 1684-3-21. It is just conceivable that this could be John-9 if he were married at age 20 (1704). His first son John could then be born 1704 and second son Abraham born 1705 and married in 1724 aged 19. However, this John almost certainly m Judith JESPER in 1727 (quaker), as John (of Saling Magna) & Judith had a daughter Bethia b1731, same name as a daughter of Henry & Abigail b1688. A relationship with the Quaker SMITH family of farmers and yeoman seems very probable but has not yet been worked out
m
1733 Thomas SMITH & Sarah CORNHILL at Lt.Sampford?
Peter SMITH of
Stonage bequeathed money to his sister-in-law Sarah "if she be
living". Sarah can only be the
wife of Thomas as all other brother's wives are known. The only possible Thomas/Sarah m found so
far is at Lt.Sampford, 12 miles N of the Walthams;
d
1Apr1757 Abraham SMITH of Gt.Waltham; B
at Stebbing Quaker burial ground
d 13Mar1776 John SMITH of Forth End,
Gt.Waltham; B18Mar at
Stebbing Quaker burial ground
d
4Apr1782 Thomas SMITH labourer of Waltham age 80 [b1702] B 7Apr at Stebbing Quaker burial ground
d 13Oct1784 Peter SMITH of Lt.Waltham
farmer age 75 [b1709] B14Oct at Stebbing Quaker burial ground
There are
suitable burials for both John and Jane in the quaker records, though they are
noted as of Lt.Waltham, whereas all previous records were of Gt.Waltham;
perhaps John inherited Stonage some time between 1728 and 1754. A mortgage dated 21Nov1756 shows that
Stonage was then owned by John HEATHFIELD of Croydon, but the occupier was not
named, though Peter SMITH occupied other properties of HEATHFIELD. John and Jane's quaker burials may indicate
that neither were baptised:
from quaker records:
d 14Sep1754 John SMITH of Little Waltham buried 16Sep Stebbing
d 20Apr1756 Jane SMITH wid of John SMITH late of Little Waltham; buried 25Apr
Stebbing